So ahem...apologies for my ranting...

On Saturday I showed my buddy the game and as he went ahead and caused utter mayhem in a vehicle the vehicle proceeded to show damage...but alas in the PS3 version it looks like PS2 graphics when ur car gets damaged...but anyway I feel like a doofus for moaning about something that just didn't happen the first few times around...

I was yesterday in a shop and the shop refused to sell the game to a kid about 13 years old.

I was impressed with the store taking a stand…

Orion475 said ...

So ahem...apologies for my ranting...

On Saturday I showed my buddy the game and as he went ahead and caused utter mayhem in a vehicle the vehicle proceeded to show damage...but alas in the PS3 version it looks like PS2 graphics when ur car gets damaged...but anyway I feel like a doofus for moaning about something that just didn't happen the first few times around...

To be fair the car damage is pretty basic at first, even on PS4. It takes some serious impacts to wreck a car but I think that's deliberate. Driving and car missions are (for me) the weakest part of the game and there's some weird gameplay mechanics such as how pursuing cars always have more weight than the vehicle you're driving. I was driving a garbage truck while getting pushed off the road by hatchback cars (presumably to force the player to use the hacking prompts).

I'm enjoying myself though, going through the main campaign while sticking to the "gang hideouts" side missions and some "criminal events". They're definitely the highlight of the game for me (showing off what's different about this game) and I wish there was an option to remove some tags from the map as the game feels bloated as hell when it comes to side activities.

I've had some great fun getting through missions only hitting the main target or hacking without confronting guards or, if therés no way around it, I'm sticking to non-lethal stealth takedowns unless them missions objectives force the kill. Last night a particularly packed gang-hideout missions was complete by causing a blackout, stealthing straight in to hit the main target and disappearing before the power was restored. it was great sandbox fun.

Lurch said ...

Orion475 said ...

So ahem...apologies for my ranting...

On Saturday I showed my buddy the game and as he went ahead and caused utter mayhem in a vehicle the vehicle proceeded to show damage...but alas in the PS3 version it looks like PS2 graphics when ur car gets damaged...but anyway I feel like a doofus for moaning about something that just didn't happen the first few times around...

To be fair the car damage is pretty basic at first, even on PS4. It takes some serious impacts to wreck a car but I think that's deliberate. Driving and car missions are (for me) the weakest part of the game and there's some weird gameplay mechanics such as how pursuing cars always have more weight than the vehicle you're driving. I was driving a garbage truck while getting pushed off the road by hatchback cars (presumably to force the player to use the hacking prompts).

I'm enjoying myself though, going through the main campaign while sticking to the "gang hideouts" side missions and some "criminal events". They're definitely the highlight of the game for me (showing off what's different about this game) and I wish there was an option to remove some tags from the map as the game feels bloated as hell when it comes to side activities.

I've had some great fun getting through missions only hitting the main target or hacking without confronting guards or, if therés no way around it, I'm sticking to non-lethal stealth takedowns unless them missions objectives force the kill. Last night a particularly packed gang-hideout missions was complete by causing a blackout, stealthing straight in to hit the main target and disappearing before the power was restored. it was great sandbox fun.

Love the gang hideout idea, but there needs to be some tweaking in the next game. You cannot, cannot do a no kill run and I have tried many times. I love that it can be tough, I had to do one hideout about 10 times as I was trying no kill but it was also bloody tough to take down 2 targets and survive. I do like that Aidan is "weak" in that he cannot take too much damage before dying. However that is only on foot against bullets. I have leapt off bikes at full speed and crashed into trucks on a bike at full speed and lived

@Magius - If you stick to doing the gang hideouts at night, you can often use power cts to move about quickly and quietly. During the day, I imagine some in open areas are almost impossible. There was one in the NW-part of the map near a beach in which I had to swim to the shore, jump out and take down the 1st target and then jump back in a swim along to the next spot. Coming from the road was impossible but all the targets are kindly lined up near the water.

Lurch said ...

@Magius - If you stick to doing the gang hideouts at night, you can often use power cts to move about quickly and quietly. During the day, I imagine some in open areas are almost impossible. There was one in the NW-part of the map near a beach in which I had to swim to the shore, jump out and take down the 1st target and then jump back in a swim along to the next spot. Coming from the road was impossible but all the targets are kindly lined up near the water.

But the power conduits tend to kill guys or does it just knock them out? When the thing blows up and they fall over, I don't see blood, but I just assume that they are dead as the ctOS system doesn't give you vitals. Would love something similar to the EKG that you get in the Arkham games Detective Mode.

@Magius - sorry for the spelling - was trying to say power "cuts". I think it may be the skill called "blackout"? Knocks out the power without you having to target any conduits.

You're definitely right about the power conduits being lethal. I find almost all items you can cause to explode/burst are lethal at close range. You can use them to just knock over/stun enemies but getting the right distance is too risky.

Lurch said ...

@Magius - sorry for the spelling - was trying to say power "cuts". I think it may be the skill called "blackout"? Knocks out the power without you having to target any conduits.

You're definitely right about the power conduits being lethal. I find almost all items you can cause to explode/burst are lethal at close range. You can use them to just knock over/stun enemies but getting the right distance is too risky.

No worries. TBH I am having so much fun sneaking and hacking and finding a way to take guys down that I haven't paid attention to the day/night cycle I like that the grenade hack takedown isn't a guaranteed kill. Some randomised stat allows a guys to get rid of the grenade before it explodes. What I have found is that the public's responses are inconsistent. I had them call the cops on me just for drawing a gun by mistake. On the next try at this hideout a guy tossed his grenade into the street after I hacked it and the crown ran around and cowered but no-one called the cops! On a nother try I hacked a conduit on a roof above a crowd and took a couple of guys out and again they called the cops. It's just weird. I must say that I am digging the game, but will probably get bored by Saturday and put it away for a couple of months and then revisit it.

@Tea Any idea if you guys are going to get the Watch Dogs guides in? This is a game that I would really like to have a guide even if I don't do everything

Sorry last question, does anyone know if the PC game supports controllers? I would love to use a controller for driving and the Mouse + KB for everything else, just wondering if guys know if this is possible.

It does support controllers, using one myself. When you press a keyboard button the prompts will change to reflect K+M

@ Magius - we are getting a handful of the limited hard cover guides in. Will list as soon as we know the ETA. but let me know if you want it booked as we are really only getting a few.

Tea said ...

@ Magius - we are getting a handful of the limited hard cover guides in. Will list as soon as we know the ETA. but let me know if you want it booked as we are really only getting a few.

Yep please book one for me Reckon that once I get Murdered Soul Suspect on Friday I will put Watch Dogs away and kill that off

@Teb cool thanks, will give that a go tonight. If I read your post correctly you can drive along merrily with the controller and then just tap the KB when you want to switch to PC controls?

Can't link to it from work, but there is a 2min Youtube vid up detailing some AC Easter Eggs. From mundane ones such as the AC PS3 box in a kid's room to some characters been shown as former Abstergo employees. I am sure this is just fun been had by the devs, but opens up the possibility for a crossover game somewhere down the line...

Digital Foundry PS3 vs PS4

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-watch-dogs-ps3-vs-ps4

I think the graphics hold up alright for last gen (although I'd love to play it alongside GTA V for comparison). The combination of sustained low-FPS and still tons of screen tear is a problem though.

Watch Dogs easter eggs!!
"Another quirky mission in Watch Dogs has you track down the Abstergo Entertainment CEO, last seen in Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag."

If you played AC Black Flag, this is gana me awesome!!!
So it looks like Watch Dogs & AC are in the same universe?

Gamespot

Watch Dogs lets you spy on an NPC using their Kinect

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-03-video-watch-dogs-lets-you-spy-on-someone-using-their-kinect

I hate UBISOFT right now

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/26/why-watch-dogs-is-bad-news-for-amd-users-and-potentially-the-entire-pc-gaming-ecosystem/


*looks at brand new Radeon GPU and sobs*

Nvidias response to that:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/28/nvidia-fires-back-the-truth-about-gameworks-amd-optimization-and-watch-dogs/