Okay, so its not backwards compatible with disc games! But you can download them!
& you can play second hand games, & you dont need to always be online!
Thats good news, except for the BC thing!
New controller looks okay! Like a mesh between the Dual Shock & Vita!

Well... did not have very high hopes for this.
The streaming service is going to kill it for me. Streaming a game from overseas each time you want to play is retarded. Look at the cluster suck that was the Diablo 3 servers at launch.

That touchpad on the controller is a gimmick taht will drive up pricing on controllers

They can still add stuff to it, and I guess they can make it work, but so far this is an absolute no-go for me

@Knight
You will have to be online to stream the Ps3 games. As far as I can see, it's fully streamed like a flash game on your pc. No digital copy on your hdd

Tebulot said ...


That touchpad on the controller is a gimmick taht will drive up pricing on controllers

oh yes, 100% agree! That touch pad looks a bit small to do anything on anyway? & look what happened to that Sixis gimmick on the Duel Shock 3! How many games actually used that...2?
If they where gana do a touch pad, they should have gone all out, or left it! At least they more or less kept the original Duel Shock shape!

The touch pad will probably show app buttons or messages similar to that one razer keypayd

I should point out that Diablo 3 for PS3 has been rumoured for like a year now.

I'm guessing the touchpad will be more for multimedia anyway.
Using the touch pad would mean taking your one hand of the controller...
I mean you COULD use it to zoom in a FPS, but it will be way to awkward.
Maybe paging through your inventory?
Feels like they added it because "everybody else is using it"

@Woofles
Is it a display or just a touch pad?

Lol thought Watchdogs looked to good to be a PS3 game.

Great to see that Diable 3 is coming, means I can finally get a chance to play that.

The Vita integration is definitely awesome, that handheld is like a Dreamcast, way to ahead of it's time so I think it's going to get far more attention when the next-gen is out.

As for BC, I am not buying a PS4 so that I can play PS3 games or PSN games so for me it's not really an issue, the only time I see it being an issue is if my PS3 dies and I can't find a replacement. Even so I haven't touched a single PS2 game since the PS3 came out anyway so backwards compatibility doesn't bother me. The only PS2 games I played was the DMC HD collection and the God of War HD collection and that just ruined fond memories of the games. Just don't see the PS3 and you are good to go but even so the PS4 games will probably overshadow PS3 games and you won't go back.

I don't see them charging us for PSN titles though as they can easily tell from our accounts that they where purchased, just like the Vita can download compatible games without you having to pay more I think the PS4 would probably allow the same thing.

Either way I am ready for next gen and if Diable 3 and Infamous 3 are release day titles I'll pick one up.

One thing about this though, the PS4 better support old fightsticks, MLG controllers and the Pulse headsets

@Teb

Ah wait yea theres no display on it, never mind lol. Yea dunno wtf the point of that thing is then

Tebulot said ...

I'm guessing the touchpad will be more for multimedia anyway.
Using the touch pad would mean taking your one hand of the controller...

Haven't played on a Vita yet huh?

For me the primary issue with BC is having (up to) four consoles cluttering up my TV stand - first world problems.

I wonder if it will be a worldwide release this year or if it will be staggered like previously i.e. we get it early 2014.

Scottie said ...

For me the primary issue with BC is having (up to) four consoles cluttering up my TV stand - first world problems.

Exactly!

Scottie said ...

I wonder if it will be a worldwide release this year or if it will be staggered like previously i.e. we get it early 2014.

worldwide release is never going to happen.

Can somebody post a pic of the PS4?
Can't get into the sites that have pics!

I like the idea of streaming games, but not the inevitable caveats with 3rd world connectivity we'll suffer, nor the idea of having to pay again. Like others mentioned, if it's integrated into a subscription model like PS+ (which I suspect they would considering how other industries like TV/Movies/Music have successfully adapted it), then I would feel better about it, so we'll see.

Integration with tablets is an interesting prospect, but will have to wait and see how games ultimately incorporate it.

Controller is meh.

Disappointed that they didn't show the console or the new UI, but supposed they have to leave something for E3.

Thanks for not blocking used games, but most of us already figured that was an incredibly silly move and likely just media fear mongering. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the patent that was filed was deliberately vague to allow for incorporation into Gakai to avoid piracy. Just a random thought.

In terms of purchasing? Doubt I'll get this at launch, maybe Xmas next year when the library is well sized and I've caught up (read: probably not) with the backlog of PS3 titles.
I'd sooner get a Vita Xmas 2013 than a PS4.

Overall, I think Sony did ok. Only the long term will dictate how successful they'll be.

I am hoping that some games will be able to use the Vita the way the WiiU controller is used. That E3 demo of Rayman was amazing.

BC isn't a big deal for me anymore, there are too many games on the PS3 for me to go back to the PS2. Push comes to shove my PS3 and 360 will move to the study and be used on one of my screens when I am not using the PC.

The pad can easily be accessed with your thumb so can see some use for it. I think that it is better that Six-Axis and has far more uses. I can see in FPS' using the thumb pad to map reloads door opening and grenades to a swipe. Will be fun when you mix those up and throw a grenade against the door instead of opening it ;P

SurrealTiggi said ...


Disappointed that they didn't show the console or the new UI, but supposed they have to leave something for E3.

They did not show the console, okay!
Yeah, E3

As a whole I would consider the meeting a success. Three or four of the titles really impressed me and it will be interesting to see where they go from here. The biggest issue right now seems to be backwards compatibility, but we will see how that works out.