I agree with Sinn purely because I dont think people actually give enough of a[censored] about the vita lol.

Vita price cut, most peoples reactions were yay, still not buying it. So if PS4 is announced then I doubt anything they say will over shadow it, especially when so many people are calling for next gen.

Even with next gen on the way the current one is still going to run strong for a very long time, I know its going to be a good 2 years atleast into the ps4 lifespan before I look at getting the console.

Hmm see there are rumours that PS+ will be rebranded as PS World and that you will now have to have this account for MP gaming. Paying for MP makes immediate financial sense, but is gonna PO the fans. If the price point stays the same then it shouldn't be too bad, I mean for R500 a year we still get shedloads of free stuff so to add MP onto that isn't such a big blow.

I see people being pretty pissed about that, and if people are expected to pay for MP gameing need to see an overall improvement on the MP as well.

I'm already on plus and intend to stay on it, so dont really care either way

But yea see a lot of angry fanboys if that happens

PlayStation Evolution

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/27hz7k/playstation-4-playstation-evolution

Woofels said ...

I see people being pretty pissed about that, and if people are expected to pay for MP gameing need to see an overall improvement on the MP as well.

I'm already on plus and intend to stay on it, so dont really care either way

But yea see a lot of angry fanboys if that happens

I also wouldn't be too upset with paying for MP if it is priced right, but yea a lot of people are going to nerdrage if that happens.

I have always wondered how Sony supports their free online service - maybe this will help them to continue delivering a top quality product

Dammit so Dust won't be free anymore?.....and just as I got addicted

Lenroc said ...

Dammit so Dust won't be free anymore?.....and just as I got addicted

Doubt it will affect PS3 users... in fact, it won't.

It won't affect PS4 users either because I highly doubt that online gaming is going to be charged for.
PS Cloud, on the other hand, will be.

Paid for online would be great if integrated with PS+ maybe then it would work

DarkPrince said ...

Paid for online would be great if integrated with PS+ maybe then it would work

if it happens, this is the way to go about it.

PSN+ is already great value as is.

STREAMING LINKS

http://www.gametrailers.com/games/tkebzh/playstation-4

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...n-event-on-ign

https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/


for those who need

Knack looked pretty good. was that ingame?

and that is a wrap. check OP for all info announced.

PS4 will come with a new PlayStation 4 Eye camera in the box - similar to how Kinect 2.0 is expected to ship with the next Xbox. PS4 Eye will let users to log in via face recognition and allow the use of gamer's body movements or voices in games. It works using dual camera lenses to capture a better view of the gameplay space, and four microphones to accurately source who's speaking. A mono headset will also be included.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-20-sony-announces-playstation-4

Nice summary at:

http://www.redmondpie.com/playstation-4-ps4-specs-features-games-graphics-release-date-everything-you-need-to-know-in-one-place/

I am just glad that they are bringing extra functionality to the Vita and the PS4. Big surpsirse for me was Blizzard and Diablo 3. I saw a video at Gametrailers around a top 20 games wishlist and wonder if some sort of port for WoW could be on the cards at some point.

Based on the games alone, MS has a lot of work to do for their reveal.

Glad they finally announced it

The backwards compatibility sounds a little weird
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4010420/sonys-playstation-4-will-use-gaikai-game-streaming-technology

How will this streaming work? Will I need to purchase something again even if I have the old game. I hope not.

The videos released look amazing! I can't believe they are in-game!

The social integration component sounds interesting.

@Magius also agree about D3 coming out of no where. Was really surprised when I heard that

Right so It doesn't natively support my psn purchase for ps1, ps2 and ps3 game I take it then? All my disc base games will be useless?

If I have to end up purchasing my games AGAIN throught his gaikai service to play them on the ps4 that's going to annoy the[censored] out of me.

I dont mind buying ps1 games again as for a lot of them I didnt have discs, now I am going to have to pay for those ps1 games again?

As cool as it sounds and how impressive the graphics are I can wait, will wait atleast 2 before picking this up probably.

Unless there is a big change is the backwards compatibility or they release more info on this will actually work.

Corrosive said ...

Glad they finally announced it

The backwards compatibility sounds a little weird
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4010420/sonys-playstation-4-will-use-gaikai-game-streaming-technology

How will this streaming work? Will I need to purchase something again even if I have the old game. I hope not.

The videos released look amazing! I can't believe they are in-game!

The social integration component sounds interesting.

@Magius also agree about D3 coming out of no where. Was really surprised when I heard that

I remember Blizzard talking about having a working prototype running on a console when they released D3, but never thought that they would actually go through with a port. I think that despite initial humungous sales Blizz are worried at the drop off in players since launch date and this helps them get that back up. I know that I have only played through the game once despite being super hyped for it and having sunk most of my varsity career into D2.

I really think that this is a tester and the next WoW will be coming to console.

Woofels said ...

Right so It doesn't natively support my psn purchase for ps1, ps2 and ps3 game I take it then? All my disc base games will be useless?

If I have to end up purchasing my games AGAIN throught his gaikai service to play them on the ps4 that's going to annoy the[censored] out of me.

I dont mind buying ps1 games again as for a lot of them I didnt have discs, now I am going to have to pay for those ps1 games again?

As cool as it sounds and how impressive the graphics are I can wait, will wait atleast 2 before picking this up probably.

Unless there is a big change is the backwards compatibility or they release more info on this will actually work.

@ Woofels if you look the Vita and the PSP games on that I think that we can expect to pay for our old games over Gaikai. IIRC on the Vita you pay a fee to activate the PSP game despite you already owning the damn thing.

I will wait as well, for the first hardware revision and for the library to build up. I waited quite some time for the 360 and PS3 (purchased those in 2008 and 2009) so can wait again. I early adopted the Vita and have learnt my lesson

I'm pretty sure they will make you buy the games all over again - Ninty are the only ones to get BC right.

Some good news:

Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has told Eurogamer that PlayStation 4 will not block the use of second-hand games, contrary to various reports, speculation and even a Sony patent unearthed last month.

I sat down with Yoshida a few hours after the PS4 reveal tonight and one of the first things I asked was whether used games would be blocked.

"Do you want us to do that?" he asked.

No, I said. I think, if you buy something on a disc, that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on.

Do you agree, I asked?

"Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-sony-tells-eurogamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games

I like the new iOS/Android app, similar to Smartglass for the 360. What I really like is that I can bloody purchase games using the app and not haveto log onto my console.

The other interesting feature is the remote help thing. Kinda like when you allow a tech to take over your PC to fix something. Nice that you can help a friend out by remotely accesing his game and gettin g him through that boss battle.

Best part to me is the fact that you can start playing a game while it is still downloading. I don't know how that will work, but it is damn exciting.