Scottie said ...

Scottie said ...

Adam Driver will play Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens' Darth Vader-like bad guy, Ren commands the First Order.

Looks like he is not the main baddie just the Sith Lord's errand boy/appy/gopher/nephew

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=45203

I think that they are mirroring the Darth Vader/Emperor relationship, in that Kylo is the instrument of Serkis' character's wrath. Also Didn't JJ confirm that neither character is a Sith, just that Serkis' character is very powerful in the Dark Side?

There is no confirmation that Snoke is or isn't a Sith yet afaik. Plenty of theories abound for and against.

I'm just avoiding everything in which they're talking about the movie, so that I can be surprised (hopefully) when it gets released.

At the rate reveals and info for modern movies gets blabbed on the net, you don't have to see them at all.

TBH Spoilers never spoil a film for me. Things are usually so telegraphed in a film that you can work it out within the first act. Also knowing something and actually seeing how it unfold is, to me, very different and doesn't detract from the enjoyment thereof.

^ I agree Magius ...plus so many movies are based on books, comics etc

"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
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KnightFall500 said ...

"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
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Love this. If he's Force sensitive and according to Lore you should be, but Grievous blows that out the water, it will be great.

Kylo Looks awesome. Fin looks terrible.

Kylo's lightsaber !love

Magius said ...

KnightFall500 said ...

"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
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Love this. If he's Force sensitive and according to Lore you should be, but Grievous blows that out the water, it will be great.

It's not his lightsaber. It's Anakin's lightsaber. He isn't a Jedi either. If you can't build your own lightsaber. You caan't become a jedi

Kylo on the other hand. Has one bad ass lightsaber

Kylo_Ren said ...

Magius said ...

KnightFall500 said ...

"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
Gamespot

Love this. If he's Force sensitive and according to Lore you should be, but Grievous blows that out the water, it will be great.

It's not his lightsaber. It's Anakin's lightsaber. He isn't a Jedi either. If you can't build your own lightsaber. You caan't become a jedi

Kylo on the other hand. Has one bad ass lightsaber

I know it's Anakin's, what I am saying is that according to lore only Force sensitive's can wield a sabre so this indicates that he is, just like Kylo's wielding his indicates that he is Force sensitive. He may go on the same Journey as Luke to becoming a Jedi.

Magius said ...

Kylo_Ren said ...

Magius said ...

KnightFall500 said ...

"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
Gamespot

Love this. If he's Force sensitive and according to Lore you should be, but Grievous blows that out the water, it will be great.

It's not his lightsaber. It's Anakin's lightsaber. He isn't a Jedi either. If you can't build your own lightsaber. You caan't become a jedi

Kylo on the other hand. Has one bad ass lightsaber

I know it's Anakin's, what I am saying is that according to lore only Force sensitive's can wield a sabre so this indicates that he is, just like Kylo's wielding his indicates that he is Force sensitive. He may go on the same Journey as Luke to becoming a Jedi.

Not true. Anyone can wield a lightsaber.

Mandalorians wield lightsabers. Plenty of other people wielded lightsabers. General Grievious even wielded lightsabers(That;s why Obi-Wan was sent after him. Because only he could beat Grievious because he was a master of Jedi lightsaber form 3 Soresu) and he wasn't force sensitive(Though they tried to infuse Grievous with Master Sifo Dyas blood hoping he would become force sensitive. Got nothing to do with that. The only exception was a lightsaber in Star Wars : The Crystal Star which could only be turned on using the force. Giving a lightsaber to a non-jedi is also strictly forbidden. Even Obi-Wan was wrong giving it to Luke. Regardless of him being the son of Anakin

I own almost 70 Star Wars novels. Which explains many great things. Even though not canon anymore. The facts stay facts. Anyone can turn on a lightsaber also. A.K.A. Han slicing the Tauntaun open to keep Luke warm.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Boba-Fett-Could-Return-Star-Wars-Here-How-71000.html

MMM…Can be interesting as the rumours has it that Han Solo dies at the end of the new movie…

Kylo_Ren said ...

Magius said ...

Kylo_Ren said ...

Magius said ...

KnightFall500 said ...

"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
Gamespot

Love this. If he's Force sensitive and according to Lore you should be, but Grievous blows that out the water, it will be great.

It's not his lightsaber. It's Anakin's lightsaber. He isn't a Jedi either. If you can't build your own lightsaber. You caan't become a jedi

Kylo on the other hand. Has one bad ass lightsaber

I know it's Anakin's, what I am saying is that according to lore only Force sensitive's can wield a sabre so this indicates that he is, just like Kylo's wielding his indicates that he is Force sensitive. He may go on the same Journey as Luke to becoming a Jedi.

Not true. Anyone can wield a lightsaber.

Mandalorians wield lightsabers. Plenty of other people wielded lightsabers. General Grievious even wielded lightsabers(That;s why Obi-Wan was sent after him. Because only he could beat Grievious because he was a master of Jedi lightsaber form 3 Soresu) and he wasn't force sensitive(Though they tried to infuse Grievous with Master Sifo Dyas blood hoping he would become force sensitive. Got nothing to do with that. The only exception was a lightsaber in Star Wars : The Crystal Star which could only be turned on using the force. Giving a lightsaber to a non-jedi is also strictly forbidden. Even Obi-Wan was wrong giving it to Luke. Regardless of him being the son of Anakin

I own almost 70 Star Wars novels. Which explains many great things. Even though not canon anymore. The facts stay facts. Anyone can turn on a lightsaber also. A.K.A. Han slicing the Tauntaun open to keep Luke warm.

Was General Grievious not a Jedi?

Will be interesting to see what of the Star Wars "facts" that existed outside the movies will stay canon... They could completely change certain details that we once thought unquestionable

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<b>KnightFall500 said ...</b> <br /><br />"New Star Wars Episode 7 Footage Shows Finn Wielding His Lightsaber"
Gamespot

Love this. If he's Force sensitive and according to Lore you should be, but Grievous blows that out the water, it will be great.

It's not his lightsaber. It's Anakin's lightsaber. He isn't a Jedi either. If you can't build your own lightsaber. You caan't become a jedi

Kylo on the other hand. Has one bad ass lightsaber

I know it's Anakin's, what I am saying is that according to lore only Force sensitive's can wield a sabre so this indicates that he is, just like Kylo's wielding his indicates that he is Force sensitive. He may go on the same Journey as Luke to becoming a Jedi.

Not true. Anyone can wield a lightsaber.

Mandalorians wield lightsabers. Plenty of other people wielded lightsabers. General Grievious even wielded lightsabers(That;s why Obi-Wan was sent after him. Because only he could beat Grievious because he was a master of Jedi lightsaber form 3 Soresu) and he wasn't force sensitive(Though they tried to infuse Grievous with Master Sifo Dyas blood hoping he would become force sensitive. Got nothing to do with that. The only exception was a lightsaber in Star Wars : The Crystal Star which could only be turned on using the force. Giving a lightsaber to a non-jedi is also strictly forbidden. Even Obi-Wan was wrong giving it to Luke. Regardless of him being the son of Anakin

I own almost 70 Star Wars novels. Which explains many great things. Even though not canon anymore. The facts stay facts. Anyone can turn on a lightsaber also. A.K.A. Han slicing the Tauntaun open to keep Luke warm.

Was General Grievious not a Jedi?

Absolutely not. Had lightsabre lessons from Dooku

Don't think he was a Jedi, he was a general involved in a war with some other planet when he was severely injured and given a number of mechanical implants and limbs. As far as I know he was never trained in the force, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't Force sensitive.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous

He was only trained by Dooku to use lightsabers

LOL Star Wars nerds meanwhile ....... drool.

Sandman said ...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous

He was only trained by Dooku to use lightsabers

Cool thanks. I am sure that I read in one of the EU books, probably DH comics as I mainly stuck to those or the old Westend Games Players Handbook, that they stated that only Force Sensitive "people" can use sabres, hence the fact that only Jedi and Sith used them. Obviously the films, as much as we may hate some of them, were and are more canon than the books etc even back before the soft reboot instituted after the Disney buyout, so the fact that Grievous can use sabres changes that.