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Rise of The Tomb Raider (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
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Llama_Duck 
01 September 2012
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Funnynel42 
11 February 2013
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BlazenTech said ...Funnynel42 said ...BlazenTech said ...IkariX said ...DarkPrince said ...
Please delete this thread it's just making me more angry.
I'm with you on that.
The games still coming out at least...geez, what a bunch of kids...
But it is coming out on the console very few people have. Also, they can't suddenly make it an exclusive game. The origins of the game was on PC and Playstation. If it was a new IP, it would be understandable, but this is unacceptable.
Honestly would people have bitched if it was a PS4 exclusive? I highly doubt it...stop being buthurt and get over it people..or better yet, buy an Xbox...
The fact that it was available on all platforms for a long time. Making it an exclusive now is just bad. If it was a new IP it would have been accepted. When the game was first announced it was going to be released on XBone, PS4 and PC.
This is the same as saying the new Halo game is Xbone exclusive and then saying it is PS4 exclusive, or God of War is now switching consoles as well. I play on PC, so this is clearly an insult to people who doesn't own a that piece of trash of a console.
This is starting to look like Microsoft paid SE and CD a crap load of money to make it an exclusive just too boost their consoles' sales figure.
BlazenTech 
18 April 2014
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18 April 2014
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Funnynel42 said ...BlazenTech said ...Funnynel42 said ...BlazenTech said ...IkariX said ...DarkPrince said ...
Please delete this thread it's just making me more angry.
I'm with you on that.
The games still coming out at least...geez, what a bunch of kids...
But it is coming out on the console very few people have. Also, they can't suddenly make it an exclusive game. The origins of the game was on PC and Playstation. If it was a new IP, it would be understandable, but this is unacceptable.
Honestly would people have bitched if it was a PS4 exclusive? I highly doubt it...stop being buthurt and get over it people..or better yet, buy an Xbox...
The fact that it was available on all platforms for a long time. Making it an exclusive now is just bad. If it was a new IP it would have been accepted. When the game was first announced it was going to be released on XBone, PS4 and PC.
This is the same as saying the new Halo game is Xbone exclusive and then saying it is PS4 exclusive, or God of War is now switching consoles as well. I play on PC, so this is clearly an insult to people who doesn't own a that piece of trash of a console.
This is starting to look like Microsoft paid SE and CD a crap load of money to make it an exclusive just too boost their consoles' sales figure.
Welcome to the game industry dude...that's how it works...still looks like its gonna be a great game though irrespective of the "Trash Console" its on...
BlazenTech 18 April 2014
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DarkPrince said ...
It's sad that people think the reason fans are unhappy is because it's going to X1, it's a lot more than that. People are more angry because it's coming accross as CD being sellouts.
People need to look further than there nose in this case.
Sellouts? This is the Video Game industry, CD have no obligation to anybody...they are a studio owned my a massive Company...why did Sony not score a deal with them? Oh wait, because Sony sold off its Square Enix shares so boo on them...
Shame the games not coming out on your "System of Choice", get over it. This kinda stuff has been happening for decades, acting all surprised about it is silly...to the people that this "Really matters" to will Either get an Xbox 1 (Which has other games except Tomb Raider on it also mind you) or cut their losses and be like "Meh, its just one out of like a trillion other games out there..."
The game is still coming...it is being made, and it looks good end of story...
DEATHGIGAS 
10 March 2007
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It's a business at the end of the day. Their job is to make money, that's it.
Either it's important enough of a game to you to buy an Xbox One or it's not.
As for PC, chances of it still going there are probably high, this been MS and all. Hell Ryse is now coming to PC as well after been an Xbox exclusive.
Either it's important enough of a game to you to buy an Xbox One or it's not.
As for PC, chances of it still going there are probably high, this been MS and all. Hell Ryse is now coming to PC as well after been an Xbox exclusive.
but yay for confirmation 
SurrealTiggi 
09 February 2007
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09 February 2007
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I'm with the upset guys, it's a real shame, but as it's been mentioned, business is business. Nobody knows the fine details, so there's still a chance we'll see a 'definite edition' release on multi-plat later on in the sequels lifecycle.
edit: I see it's been confirmed now, missed the post above.
What concerns me is that this may set a precedent and soon we'll start to see more multi-platform IPs getting bought out by the big guns to maintain exclusivity, maybe the deal will lapse, maybe it won't.
It seems unlikely, but MS has proven that at least some companies are willing to do it.
I mean heck, if Disney can buy Marvel and Lucasfilms, what's stopping Microsoft from buying Activision, or Sony from buying Electronic Arts, or Nintendo from buying Ubisoft (lol)?
edit: I see it's been confirmed now, missed the post above.
What concerns me is that this may set a precedent and soon we'll start to see more multi-platform IPs getting bought out by the big guns to maintain exclusivity, maybe the deal will lapse, maybe it won't.
It seems unlikely, but MS has proven that at least some companies are willing to do it.
I mean heck, if Disney can buy Marvel and Lucasfilms, what's stopping Microsoft from buying Activision, or Sony from buying Electronic Arts, or Nintendo from buying Ubisoft (lol)?
Magius said ...
There's a good article on this on Lazygamer and I agree with them. Square took a business decision to accept MS' cash. This is guaranteed income, so even if it sells zero copies they've earned something. They don't hate other gamers, they made a business decision to mitigate some risk
Problem with this principle is that a business needs to serve a market and keep that market happy to ensure it survives. If you're pissing off a massive chunk of your market and have strategies based purely around your own financial survival, then it's only a stalling tactic, not solving the problems.
Video games aren't essential products, there's no guarantee of consumers going forward especially in highly competitive market so you have to keep your consumers happy.
Lurch said ...Magius said ...
There's a good article on this on Lazygamer and I agree with them. Square took a business decision to accept MS' cash. This is guaranteed income, so even if it sells zero copies they've earned something. They don't hate other gamers, they made a business decision to mitigate some risk
Problem with this principle is that a business needs to serve a market and keep that market happy to ensure it survives. If you're pissing off a massive chunk of your market and have strategies based purely around your own financial survival, then it's only a stalling tactic, not solving the problems.
Video games aren't essential products, there's no guarantee of consumers going forward especially in highly competitive market so you have to keep your consumers happy.
Maybe, maybe not. If MS was to exit to the console business then I would agree, but the install base for the XB1 is large enough for Square to make the calculated decision to go exclusive for piles of cash. Will this PO a few guys, sure, will all of them boycott future multi-plat TR releases, hell no. A few will, but they are the minority. In the end, those who really want to play future TR games will do so no matter what they say today. Square knows this and decided a little bit of bad PR today will not be too much of a problem in a couple of years.
That Lazygamer article isn't really proving any point. Like every picture that's going around, the least amount of sales for Tomb Raider was on Xbox, even the PC version sold more. So now all of a sudden it's a good business decision to only sell your game on the platform it sold the least amount of copies on? I'm sorry that is just dumb.
This tactic hurt them more than what they probably would have made, just like all the bad publicity MS got over decisions on the X1 which where eventually changed due to "upset gamers" it still left many gamers hating microsoft and moving over to different platforms. I am very interested to see how this plays out for them and the sales.
When a game sells over 5 million copies and is still said to not have reached expectations putting it on 1 console that barely even has 5 million install base leaves me questioning their business decisions.
In all honesty I don't think SE or CD expected the backlash that they got.
This tactic hurt them more than what they probably would have made, just like all the bad publicity MS got over decisions on the X1 which where eventually changed due to "upset gamers" it still left many gamers hating microsoft and moving over to different platforms. I am very interested to see how this plays out for them and the sales.
When a game sells over 5 million copies and is still said to not have reached expectations putting it on 1 console that barely even has 5 million install base leaves me questioning their business decisions.
In all honesty I don't think SE or CD expected the backlash that they got.
I agree with Magius, a lot of hate from gamers is short lived.
I cannot personal think of anyone I know that has had a sustained boycott of a game franchise or company due to their business dealings. Not even flare ups with DRM like D3 have kept gamers away from their games - people still buy them after they vent.
This won't hurt MS, CD or SE in the long run.
I cannot personal think of anyone I know that has had a sustained boycott of a game franchise or company due to their business dealings. Not even flare ups with DRM like D3 have kept gamers away from their games - people still buy them after they vent.
This won't hurt MS, CD or SE in the long run.
Sinncross 
09 February 2007
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DarkPrince said ...
When a game sells over 5 million copies and is still said to not have reached expectations putting it on 1 console that barely even has 5 million install base leaves me questioning their business decisions.
I don't know what they said in the lazygamer article but the basic premise of what happens is they need to sell x copies to recover development and marketing costs all whilst either burning their own cash or raising loans for salaries etc.
So for arguments sake say they need to sell 5 million copies to break even.
If MS effectively pays for everything they need to see 0 copies to break even hence selling only 1 million copies on X1 would equal mucho $$$
All hypothetical of course without knowing the deal's details.
Right so the sales charts I found at at www.vgchartz.com shows Tomb Raider sold 4.82m copies. Broken down you can see that on Sony Platforms TR sold 55% of the copies and MS 39%. So yes it did sell better on Sony platforms. However the gap isn't that wide. I still think that Square made a business decision and that MS is paying them some amount, maybe 55% of potential total sales to make this exclusive. Again this is guaranteed income with no risk, Square has now made money before a game's release. MS is also making a business decision believing that this game will be a system seller. Whether they are right or not only time will tell and all the butt hurt fan boys must calm down. This game, any game, is not a necessity, move on and play something else or if you have to have it buy an XB1 or wait for the ps4 release.
