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IkariX
23 September at 16:06
@deathkid

No one is stopping you from enjoying the FFVII Reamke games. But my point still stands, it's poorly written fanfiction. First time I played Final Fantasy VII was in 1999. Final Fantasy VII and Resident Evil 1(I still have both), were my first 2 PlayStation 1 games. So I've played Final Fantasy VII numerous times over the years. What what the Remake games are, are nothing more than imitators.

It's mass market slop at it's finest. Does it make it terrible games? Not at all, Remake Part 1 was fairly decent. But let's not pretend that any of the remake games are as good as the original. I hope Square Enix doesn't touch Final Fantasy VIII. Because they'll ruin that as well.
deaththekid
23 September at 14:17
@phreak - Dont't get me wrong, many fans have valid criticism's with the game and I respect that. And It sucks when a game you're excited for doesn't hit the way you'd hope. I mean as fans we want to enjoy all entries in our favourite franchises.

I feel that as I'm getting older I rather just enjoy games for what they are.

One thing that I am not happy with is that FFVII Revelation will not be fully on disc, even though physical discs are included.
UmarB
23 September at 13:49
I'm a pretty hardcore FF fan but if you love the Remake series, as I do, you also kind of have to understand that a lot of contentious decisions were made in the story and it's just not gonna land with some people. I totally get why some folks don't like it or agree with the changes.

I do hope however that the announcement of FFXVII is close, feels like the FF fandom needs a new mainline title to reset after the Remake series lol
phreak
23 September at 12:49
Hope it lives up to your expectations and you love it.
Always sucks to not be with happy for a game you were excited about.
Lurch
23 September at 12:43
@phreak - that I understand. Rabid defenders are rarely better than those that hate on a game. If you like a game or series, it makes sense you want to discuss what it could have done better or where it might go in the future.

Think people have become to comfortable with giving simplistic aggressive responses, attaching a strong emotion to it as justification, then calling it a day.
phreak
23 September at 12:43
I will never deny that the FF7 remake games have good graphics, runs well and a great combat system.
Those parts are really well done. It's other things I don't like
phreak
23 September at 12:39
As I said, I hope everyone excited for it enjoys it.
Won't deny you that ever. Hope you love it.
I'm just tired of being insulted for not liking changes I feel are disrespectful to the original. Changes I won't talk about here due to spoilers.
deaththekid
23 September at 12:31
@phreak @IcariX - Everyone is entitled to their opinions but personally I am excited for Revelations. I never played the OG FFVII until 2006ish.

Loved it, but the remakes are even better. The combat, graphics and party interactions are great.

Played Remake and while it does have its slow parts i.e walking simulator. It's still a great game. Played Rebirth last month only and it was even better, much more exploration, and yes while there is a ton of side content - most of it is optional.

It was a joy to see Zack again and play as him. and I think in the remakes Aerith's characterisation is miles better than Tifa.

I am hyped for Revelations and cant wait for more.

I am not a purist so do not care much with the story changes, by the end of the trilogy I doubt there will be any crazy differences to the actual ending of FFVII.

Resonance will be my GOTY though, I can see it already.
Lurch
23 September at 12:27
Elitism is fine except when people lose sense of the context in which games (or any other media) are made.

We're shifting into a bipolar market - maybe exacerbated by social media - where things are near perfect and therefore worth money/time, or people fixate on flaws without considering things like the developers cultural setting, size, budget, development time, and publisher influence.

Increasingly problematic when a few flaws lead to small teams (and sometimes bigger ones) collectively trashed for one or two elements with no regard given for everything else the games/series/movie does well.

Does not bode well as that ultimately means more safe bets and more homogenisation (especially in the console market where creative indie titles don't sell nearly as many copies as on PC).
IkariX
23 September at 12:07
@Phreak

I can't wait for Resonance. But the more I hear Square Enix talk about Revelations, the less I'm interested in playing it.

I've been called an elitist as well. But the whole Remake trilogy so far feels like poorly written fanfiction. I hope Square Enix stays far far far away from Final Fantasy VIII
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February 21 2013, 5:46am
From news we can gather, the controller is most interesting.

It clearly has improved analog sticks, as well as improved shoulder buttons (namely L2/ R2).

The touch pad functions as an additional button, and is multi touch for 2 points of contact.

THe d-pad also looks to be an improvement.. sort of resembling the PSV.

The light on the top uses three color LEDs that illuminate in various colors. This can be used to indicate player colour, or provide feedback such as a health indicator etc.
 
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February 21 2013, 6:50am
Still looks like a 360 control raped a duelshock.

Looks pretty comfy overall though, still cant believe they had that conference and all we saw of the damn thing was the controller lol.
 
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February 21 2013, 9:37am
Love it...if it's anything like the Xbox controller, it'll be a lot more comfy, just hope it isn't as heavy though. But overall...I really like the look of it, really cool!
 
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February 21 2013, 9:57am
They really did just jam the touch screen in there didn't they.
don't see why they couldn't have put it on the back like the vita.
when i look at it all i can think of is those cheap 3rd party madcatz controllers. that said it does look comfy, especially if it has the vita d-pad which is actually my favourite dpad of all the current consoles out

as for the actual hardware i was pretty impressed, no more need to worry about streaming equipment(which should save me couple bucks hopefully)
the suspend mode sounds like a dream, since my attention span with games these days has decreased drastically rofl. pretty much all they have to sell me on is the games now, haven't seen anything interesting yet(Square Enix's flop of a presentation last night didn't help either). but all my favourite dev's were listed at the presentation so here's hoping something interesting pops up at E3(points at SE).
 
Morschee Morschee

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February 21 2013, 10:04am
RagnaXBL said ...

They really did just jam the touch screen in there didn't they.
don't see why they couldn't have put it on the back like the vita.


Or on the front and back like the Vita. I just hope they don't develop games that are TOO touch screen operated, it can get annoying at times, almost like QTE's does...
 
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February 21 2013, 11:41am
I looove the design of it!
I just hope the touchpad doesn't get abandoned by developers like the sixaxis motion
 
Morschee Morschee

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February 21 2013, 11:51am
SupaPhly said ...

I looove the design of it!
I just hope the touchpad doesn't get abandoned by developers like the sixaxis motion


Agreed, but they shouldn't make it a function in each and every game. I loved UC on PSV, but I stopped playing it now due to the amount of touch screen crap you need to do, there is just too much of it in that game. It really gets annoying. LBP has a great balance of touch screen and gameplay imo...UC just killed it
 
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February 21 2013, 11:54am
well the developers have already abandoned the touchpad on the psv so don't get your hopes up
 
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February 21 2013, 11:57am
Don't have an issue with the controller and don't care if no one uses the touch pad. I am just relived it's an actual controller and not some stupid tablet or move type thing.
 
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February 21 2013, 12:22pm
Yeah - i think it looks great and a decent design upgrade to the normal dualshock design. That been the basic design since psOne days.

The touch panel will be most practical if used as a mouse cursor type control, especially in rts / puzzle/ strategy games. but again, not a biggy if they (developers) never use it. At least at heart the PS4 controller is still the some as the present design, which i love
 
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February 21 2013, 12:25pm
I like the redesign of the analog sticks, mine took some serious punishment from SSX and the top rubbery bit is loose now lol.

Those look alot more sturdy to ware and tear
 
SupaPhly SupaPhly

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February 21 2013, 1:02pm


It's a happy crab!
 
Morschee Morschee

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SupaPhly said ...



It's a happy crab!


Now that's an awesome observation lol!!! Brilliant
 
L1ghtn1ngZA L1ghtn1ngZA

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February 21 2013, 2:06pm
DarkPrince said ...

Don't have an issue with the controller and don't care if no one uses the touch pad. I am just relived it's an actual controller and not some stupid tablet or move type thing.


Completely agree. We are still getting a camera with it though
 
Sinncross Sinncross

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February 21 2013, 3:32pm
L1ghtn1ngZA said ...

DarkPrince said ...

Don't have an issue with the controller and don't care if no one uses the touch pad. I am just relived it's an actual controller and not some stupid tablet or move type thing.


Completely agree. We are still getting a camera with it though



what exactly is the problem with that? They are enhancing the social features of the PS experience and a camera is a large part of that for many people.
 
Sinncross Sinncross

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February 21 2013, 4:00pm
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-sony-tells-eurogamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games

wont block used games.

well there you go.
 
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-psn-games-wont-transfer-to-ps4/

PSN GAMES NOT TRANSFERABLE
 
phreak phreak

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Tebulot said ...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-psn-games-wont-transfer-to-ps4/

PSN GAMES NOT TRANSFERABLE


Heard about this a short while ago..... such a load of BS!!!!!!!!!!!
 
DarkPrince DarkPrince SITE MODERATOR

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February 21 2013, 6:48pm
Better keep your PS3's
 
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