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IkariX
23 September at 16:06
@deathkid

No one is stopping you from enjoying the FFVII Reamke games. But my point still stands, it's poorly written fanfiction. First time I played Final Fantasy VII was in 1999. Final Fantasy VII and Resident Evil 1(I still have both), were my first 2 PlayStation 1 games. So I've played Final Fantasy VII numerous times over the years. What what the Remake games are, are nothing more than imitators.

It's mass market slop at it's finest. Does it make it terrible games? Not at all, Remake Part 1 was fairly decent. But let's not pretend that any of the remake games are as good as the original. I hope Square Enix doesn't touch Final Fantasy VIII. Because they'll ruin that as well.
deaththekid
23 September at 14:17
@phreak - Dont't get me wrong, many fans have valid criticism's with the game and I respect that. And It sucks when a game you're excited for doesn't hit the way you'd hope. I mean as fans we want to enjoy all entries in our favourite franchises.

I feel that as I'm getting older I rather just enjoy games for what they are.

One thing that I am not happy with is that FFVII Revelation will not be fully on disc, even though physical discs are included.
UmarB
23 September at 13:49
I'm a pretty hardcore FF fan but if you love the Remake series, as I do, you also kind of have to understand that a lot of contentious decisions were made in the story and it's just not gonna land with some people. I totally get why some folks don't like it or agree with the changes.

I do hope however that the announcement of FFXVII is close, feels like the FF fandom needs a new mainline title to reset after the Remake series lol
phreak
23 September at 12:49
Hope it lives up to your expectations and you love it.
Always sucks to not be with happy for a game you were excited about.
Lurch
23 September at 12:43
@phreak - that I understand. Rabid defenders are rarely better than those that hate on a game. If you like a game or series, it makes sense you want to discuss what it could have done better or where it might go in the future.

Think people have become to comfortable with giving simplistic aggressive responses, attaching a strong emotion to it as justification, then calling it a day.
phreak
23 September at 12:43
I will never deny that the FF7 remake games have good graphics, runs well and a great combat system.
Those parts are really well done. It's other things I don't like
phreak
23 September at 12:39
As I said, I hope everyone excited for it enjoys it.
Won't deny you that ever. Hope you love it.
I'm just tired of being insulted for not liking changes I feel are disrespectful to the original. Changes I won't talk about here due to spoilers.
deaththekid
23 September at 12:31
@phreak @IcariX - Everyone is entitled to their opinions but personally I am excited for Revelations. I never played the OG FFVII until 2006ish.

Loved it, but the remakes are even better. The combat, graphics and party interactions are great.

Played Remake and while it does have its slow parts i.e walking simulator. It's still a great game. Played Rebirth last month only and it was even better, much more exploration, and yes while there is a ton of side content - most of it is optional.

It was a joy to see Zack again and play as him. and I think in the remakes Aerith's characterisation is miles better than Tifa.

I am hyped for Revelations and cant wait for more.

I am not a purist so do not care much with the story changes, by the end of the trilogy I doubt there will be any crazy differences to the actual ending of FFVII.

Resonance will be my GOTY though, I can see it already.
Lurch
23 September at 12:27
Elitism is fine except when people lose sense of the context in which games (or any other media) are made.

We're shifting into a bipolar market - maybe exacerbated by social media - where things are near perfect and therefore worth money/time, or people fixate on flaws without considering things like the developers cultural setting, size, budget, development time, and publisher influence.

Increasingly problematic when a few flaws lead to small teams (and sometimes bigger ones) collectively trashed for one or two elements with no regard given for everything else the games/series/movie does well.

Does not bode well as that ultimately means more safe bets and more homogenisation (especially in the console market where creative indie titles don't sell nearly as many copies as on PC).
IkariX
23 September at 12:07
@Phreak

I can't wait for Resonance. But the more I hear Square Enix talk about Revelations, the less I'm interested in playing it.

I've been called an elitist as well. But the whole Remake trilogy so far feels like poorly written fanfiction. I hope Square Enix stays far far far away from Final Fantasy VIII
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Review: Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers

For the light is the darkness.

by M.A. Ligocki on 26 August, 2019
Reviewed on PC

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Getting to Shadowbringers, Final Fantasy XIV’s latest expansion has been an incredible journey. Not least because of the amount of content that Square have managed to bless this MMO with, but because the story has been an amazingly crafted tale that, just when you think it can’t get any better, outdoes itself. How Square have managed to, not only, maintain a level of storytelling excellence but also raise the quality with each expansion, is simply mind-boggling.



Final Fantasy XIV’s story has, from the beginning, been one long tale about the Warrior of Lights journey. Like life, the base game and each expansion has flowed seamlessly from one into the next, each plot thread, each connection made or lost is just another step in the journey of your digital life. Plot threads begun in one expansion usually pay off in another or the games patch quests between expansions, making it all the harder to truly talk about the story without eliciting spoilers. And believe me, this is a journey that you don’t want spoiled at all.

Story plot threads begun in the game’s first expansion, Heavensward, not only set the stage for Shadowbringers, but begins to culminate emotionally as well. It’s an astounding achievement rarely seen outside of novels. Suffice to say, your journey is no longer merely about saving one world from the games main antagonists, The Ascians, but rather the fate of Final Fantasy XIV’s version of the multiverse. So no pressure then, right Warriors!

It’s an astounding achievement rarely seen outside of novels.


Through events setup during the patch quests at the end of Stormblood, the Warrior of Light has been called away to another world, The First, which is on the brink of destruction. The Light, through dastardly Ascian machination, has flooded the world and is close to bringing about its destruction. There is no balance in The First between the primal forces of Light and Dark and, without one to balance the other, The Light has proven itself just as deadly when left unchecked. The bulk of The First has been decimated by The Light, while its people – those who yet survive – are slowly being infected and transformed into Light-spawned monstrosities known as Sin Eaters. Night no longer graces the skies in this washed-out world of perpetual Light.



Though you get transported to this world, and are unknown, once you hear of the people’s plight, it’s not long before you’re making waves in the Lights stream. After all, what’s a hero to do? Adopting the mantle of Warrior of Darkness, and aided by your fellow Scions who were also unwittingly pulled across, you traverse forth into the washed-out landscape to battle the Lightwardens, the monstrous Sin Eater bosses.

Along the way you’ll encounter an empire seeking to rule this worlds last days through debauchery and force, euthanasia camps for people who have been infected by The Light and are slowly transforming into Sin Eaters, a culture waiting for legendary heroes to return and your fellow Scions who, through interdimensional timey-wimey shenanigans, have been here longer than you and been changed by the experience - all the while searching for a way home as well to continue a war you were rudely ripped away from.

While the fate of the world has been your major goal, you’re just as often entrenched in the political machinations between kingdoms...


Final Fantasy XIV has always been high fantasy. While the fate of the world has been your major goal, you’re just as often entrenched in the political machinations between kingdoms and leading rebellions from beneath the shroud of tyranny. And yet, somehow, Square have managed to make each of these plotlines personal and emotionally affecting. You’ll befriend kings, Sultanas and paupers alike. Their battles become yours and with the phenomenal character writing, you’ll get to know them better than you thought you could a digital character.



Which is all the more heartbreaking when they’re fates come calling. Shadowbringers, as with the rest of Final Fantasy XIV, isn’t afraid to remove characters from the board permanently.

Visually, Shadowbringers continues with the same level of visual excellence as the rest of the MMO. Norvrandt is a wonderfully washed out, bleached landscape, as beautifully harsh to the eyes as it is hostile. As you defeat Lightwardens, some semblance of balance returns to the world and night makes its appearance to people who have never seen it before, with palpable adulation.

From a gameplay standpoint, Shadowbringers brings the usual new items, weapon, armour sets, dungeons, boss fights and massive explorable maps that you would expect from an expansion. Two new races join the game; the Viera and the Hrothgar – along with two new jobs; the Dancer and Gunbreaker. I’m afraid to say I haven’t checked out these jobs just yet, mostly because I’m quite happy with how my Black Mage currently rolls.



The largest change, and the one I was most excited for, was the addition of Trusts. Trusts allow you to form a party of NPC’s to take on the games MP dungeons if you’re not up to waiting in ques or just playing with others. This is a feature that I feel should have been in the game from the base campaign, even if it does have its limitations. From a story cohesion point of view, it makes far more sense for you to journey into a dungeon with the rest of the Scions while they’re standing next to you due to the story, than tackling it with your adventurer friends. It would be great if this feature could be retroactively fitted into the base game and previous expansions.

For anyone who’s played this game, you know how insane and involved the boss fights are and just why that can be a really frustrating affair...


Trusts aren’t perfect however. You’re A.I. controlled partners do an excellent job of attacking enemies and healing you, but come with one major limitation: they can’t raise you if you’re KO’d in any of the fights. As soon as you’re knocked out you’re popped back to the dungeons start immediately. What you’ve killed up to that point stays dead, but if you pegged during a boss fight, that’s a restart on the boss. For anyone who’s played this game, you know how insane and involved the boss fights are and just why that can be a really frustrating affair, especially if, like me, you’re just rubbish at them and the split second timing required. Also, at least for me, Trusts took longer to complete than running the dungeon with other players.



Gone too are the multi-room explorable Dungeons from the base game as Shadowbringers keeps the same design from the previous expansions, where the Dungeons are essentially multi-floor corridors designed for large pulls and AOE’s. The major advantage to this is that Dungeon runs now rarely last more than twenty minutes but does rob them, outside of the gorgeous set dressing, of character.

Finally there are the games boss fights. There’s some inspired design for the Lightwardens and the insanity of the fights and all the attacks being flung around simultaneously remains. Square seems to have upped the ante on some of the fights, such as the Titania fight, which smacks you with just about every one of the bosses mechanics at the same time. A month after launch and it seems people are still having trouble with this as, after multiple wipes, players started leaving the fight.

Shadowbringers isn’t without its faults though. One of the games narrative mechanics to get you exploring the world are starting to feel a little cliché and well-worn, especially if all you’re after is the story. The usual "kill so many of this and speak to these three people" quests in each new area or settlement may be designed to get you to know the area and its history, but it feels archaic and pace-breaking now. The writing, even on these little quests, may still be superb but it’s an RPG holdover and cliché that really needs to be weeded out.



Shadowbringers' gorgeous visuals and tremendous writing will entrench you in a world whose stakes and characters are close to your heart while providing you with a rich world to explore. With Shadowbringers, Final Fantasy XIV does more than just cement itself as one of the best –if not the best – top-tier MMORPG’s today, but also the best Final Fantasy game since Final Fantasy IX.

9
Excellent writing and storytelling
Massive amount of content
Visually impressive
Expansive story
No raises in Trusts
Some older RPG holdovers that need to be let go
9
Reviewed on PC See our scoring policy here

M.A. Ligocki

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There are 3 comments

phreak
@deathgigas: Herecy! Thou didn'th turn of mount music to hear the amazing music? Time for a crusade!
DEATHGIGAS
I have to say, I didn't pay too much attention to this expansions music. The only thing that's still sticking in my head is the Chocobo theme while you're riding.
phreak
The music is freaking fantastic too. Soken did a fantastic job. I'll be importing the OST from japan (88 tracks). So I would have personally added the music to the good points. Like the dungeon boss theme.

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