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Assassin's Creed: Syndicate (PS4, Xbox One, PC) 23rd October, 2015

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Siosal Siosal

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October 14 2015, 12:58pm
NX Gamer reckons we'll have the same problems with Syndicate that we had with Unity:

 
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October 14 2015, 1:06pm
I would be surprised if we had a repeat of Unity launch (that even made the headlines of the BBC). Ubisoft knows that can't happen again. I'm not sure what the final patches for Unity were but I don't think any were 17+GB
 
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October 14 2015, 1:25pm
The patch on X1 was 40gb
 
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October 14 2015, 1:34pm
That I believe was a re-download of the whole game instead of the patch, a bollock up of the patch process. My point is that Unity is not the only game to suffer these issues. MCC and Witcher 3 spring to mind but for some reason people seem more tolerant of them than Unity. Just my 2c
 
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October 14 2015, 1:34pm
DarkPrince said ...

The patch on X1 was 40gb


....say what? Surely that's DLC as well? Sorry but thats freaking sick! The game itself is 40gig!

So if you have the game and download the patch is it close to 80gig on your hdd for one game?

edit: @Scottie I picked up Witcher 3 and played completely un-patched for 4 days. Other than 1 minor jumping glitch which I got out of in a few seconds, I had no major issues or bad experiences with the game. But that was only 4 days so I can't say I am the last word on the topic.
 
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October 14 2015, 1:40pm
@Siosal - there was no 40GB patch plus Unity appears to have only 5 patches.

The main issue with playing Witcher 3 unpatched is you will not able to play any of the expansions.

I know KF500 played unpatched all the way through.
 
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October 14 2015, 1:46pm
Scottie said ...

@Siosal - there was no 40GB patch plus Unity appears to have only 5 patches.

The main issue with playing Witcher 3 unpatched is you will not able to play any of the expansions.

I know KF500 played unpatched all the way through.


Well I have patched it now and I do appreciate the changes such as the menu system and movement alternatives. Regarding the expansions, even though the new one is getting great reviews and is relatively cheap for what you get (compare that to the Arkham Knight DLC) I don't know yet whether I like the game enough to purchase it. If Knightfall did play through unpatched then I was right in my assumption that there wasn't really anything detrimental in the pre-patched version and that I could finish without it.

As for the AC:U patch I can only take your word for it. I don't honestly know.
 
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October 14 2015, 2:37pm
Scottie said ...

That I believe was a re-download of the whole game instead of the patch, a bollock up of the patch process. My point is that Unity is not the only game to suffer these issues. MCC and Witcher 3 spring to mind but for some reason people seem more tolerant of them than Unity. Just my 2c


Someone knows what he's talking about
 
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October 14 2015, 2:42pm
I'm really looking forward to this as well. The time frame is what I'm really interested in. The only AC game that needs to be made for me now is a 1930's/1940's L.A. and Chicago gangster Assassin game

Apart from AC II, which is horrible, I've enjoyed each game. The story to different degrees though. I would like a return to the main story arc concerning the end of the world. That just fell massively by the wayside. . .
 
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October 14 2015, 3:03pm
Scottie said ...My point is that Unity is not the only game to suffer these issues. MCC and Witcher 3 spring to mind but for some reason people seem more tolerant of them than Unity.


For the same reason people will give something like MGSV glowing reviews, even though the game is mediocre at best and obviously has loads of stuff cut from it. Fandom, been saying it since the release but Witcher 3 is not as good as it's made out to be.

Also people are probably more fed up with the AC games getting yearly releases and due to that you end up with a broken game on launch that needs multiple patches to fix it, instead of just taking time to develop the game and release it when it's done which results in a better overall gameplay experience. Witcher 2 released in 2011 and Witcher 3 in 2015, that's quite a large gap, what was the time between Unity and whatever other AC game came before that?
 
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October 14 2015, 3:42pm
Personally it's not just last year's mess of a game but the whole culture/mindset of trying to make this type of game a yearly release.

With the sports games it's easy to get away with, but with such an intricate, story-driven series they just killed it off. In and of themselves these games look good and interesting, but it's the whole system that they represent which I'm against.

Unity was beautiful to look at, but had no replay value, and was just a disappointing experience for me in terms of game-play. AC 1 and 2 set the bar really high for me, and looking at the series in the context of those games and the expectations they fostered in me after playing them, I must say I just can't return to this series unless something changes drastically.

The game engine Unity was built on, and Syndicate is on too, is not an engine I can easily support again. There were fundamental issues which I'm sceptical about them sorting out merely a year later. They need to scrap it and build a new engine, but take their time with it.

Even then I'd wait at least 6 months for them to fix the game since they seem fine with the Day 1 patch way of doing things... but that's a whole other rant.
 
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October 14 2015, 4:08pm
Having played Witcher 3 & AC Unity with no patches. Witcher 3 was the more broken game of the two.
I did enjoy Witcher 3 a lot more then Unity. Those AC games are getting real boring now.
It seems to be more of, how many npcs can we fit on screen at once. Then is the game actually fun. They are starting to become more History Channel, then the fun action/adventure games they supposed to be.
In the order I liked them, from best to worse. Never played the two portable ones.
AC2
AC Black Flag
AC Revelations
AC Brotherhood
AC1
AC Unity
 
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October 14 2015, 5:57pm
KnightFall500 said ...

Having played Witcher 3 & AC Unity with no patches. Witcher 3 was the more broken game of the two.
I did enjoy Witcher 3 a lot more then Unity. Those AC games are getting real boring now.
It seems to be more of, how many npcs can we fit on screen at once. Then is the game actually fun. They are starting to become more History Channel, then the fun action/adventure games they supposed to be.
In the order I liked them, from best to worse. Never played the two portable ones.
AC2
AC Black Flag
AC Revelations
AC Brotherhood
AC1
AC Unity


Black flag was too much of a break from what made the originals great for me. But I'm no expert.

 
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October 14 2015, 6:15pm
Somebody wants a word with the naysayers


 
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October 15 2015, 7:20am
Siosal said ...

KnightFall500 said ...

Having played Witcher 3 & AC Unity with no patches. Witcher 3 was the more broken game of the two.
I did enjoy Witcher 3 a lot more then Unity. Those AC games are getting real boring now.
It seems to be more of, how many npcs can we fit on screen at once. Then is the game actually fun. They are starting to become more History Channel, then the fun action/adventure games they supposed to be.
In the order I liked them, from best to worse. Never played the two portable ones.
AC2
AC Black Flag
AC Revelations
AC Brotherhood
AC1
AC Unity


Black flag was too much of a break from what made the originals great for me. But I'm no expert.



I liked the character, but the story didn't grab me, Assassinations were too easy (just hide in long grass, pick off a few guards, then rush in) and I found the naval combat boring.
 
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October 15 2015, 9:19am
For me

AC1 - best story, best moral conundrums, repetitive game gameplay 8/10
AC2 - Just great, minus 1 point for timed tombs 9/10
AC2 Brotherhood - best gameplay, minus 1 point for BS sequel milking 9/10
AC Revelations - should have been DLC to Brotherhood 7.5/10
AC III - crap 6/10
AC IV Black Flag - Great, different, breath of fresh air to ACIII 9/10

Still to play Rogue, maybe Unity someday.
 
KnightFall500 KnightFall500

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October 15 2015, 9:37am
oh[censored], I forgot about Rogue & AC3
Lets try again!

AC2
AC Black Flag
AC Rogue
AC Revelations
AC Brotherhood
AC1
AC3
AC Unity
 
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October 16 2015, 7:09am
How can you not want this ...





 
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October 19 2015, 5:23pm
Live feed at 18:00 if anyone is interested

 
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October 19 2015, 8:32pm
BS rumour going around of 18GB day 1 patch

From Ubi

The Day 1 patch will be about 534MB on PS4 and about 520MB on Xbox One. The total size of the game on day 1 will be ~43GB on PS4 and ~40GB on Xbox One.

https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/3p9jrc/assassins_creed_syndicate_has_a_18gb_day_one/cw585ce?context=3

 
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