Sinncross said ...

Firstly we have known for a while there're the game is 30fps.

Secondly neither DS were 60fps on consoles to my knowledge.

But the PC versions were (Granted you had to install a mod on DS 1) but still, saying its "The best for this game". The ps4 is a powerfull machine, "art direction" is no excuse not to attempt a 60FPS...heck, the Wii-U has more games at the moment that run at a stable 60FPS

You don't need 60fps for a game like this, the souls series ran perfectly fine at 30fps. These are slow calculating games you don't rush through them.

People whining for the sake of whining.

PS4 is not a PC. Makes no sense to compare them spec wise.

The producer never said 'best for this game'. His actual words were that 30fps was chosen 'considering its game design'. This means something fundamentally different to what you are interpreting it as.

He never said 'art direction' either.

The PS4 could run all those WiiU games at 60fps too. What is your point?

Have you guys played the Souls games on PC? Didn't think so...it's still gonna be a great game [Probably] but tell me you're also not a tad dissapointed? There is def a difference with regards to higher frame rate, it makes the game more responsive and fluid.

BlazenTech*Undead* said ...

] but tell me you're also not a tad dissapointed?

Im not, because I dont care.

As long as the frame rate is a solid 30fps, that is alright. If it were 60 fps, then sure even better. But as it stands, I am indifferent as long as the game is just fun to play.

Was just as easy and responsive on console as it was on PC. Granted the mods that you could get where quite cool but it did nothing for the overall gameplay.

Demons Souls still ran better than any of the games anyway.

DarkPrince said ...


Demons Souls still ran better than any of the games anyway.

Agreed . Still, It seems like almost every week I see some dev (Especially those from Ubisoft etc) coming up with some excuse why a lower framerate and resolution is better. This is next gen people, I don't want my only 60FPS experience to be Dynasty Warriors titles and some fighting games

BlazenTech*Undead* said ... It seems like almost every week I see some dev (Especially those from Ubisoft etc) coming up with some excuse why a lower framerate and resolution is better. This is next gen people, I don't want my only 60FPS experience to be Dynasty Warriors titles and some fighting games

The excuses are stupid, naturally. At least PS4 games are hitting 1080P on the resolution front, so with some engine optimisation 60fps should be happening. Besides, there is UC4 coming and I am pretty sure 60fps is what ND will go for.


That said, just because the consoles are stronger doesnt mean that automaticlaly resolutions and framerates are increased. If those devs were making the exact same games they made on the previous gen without any changes, than sure its easy. But they aren't: many are using a whole bunch of new tech in their games and trying to push not only graphics, but things like AI etc, so there is more computing taking place, and its having a negative affect on trying to reach 60fps.

Its a very simple thing devs are doing: they are optimising resolution and graphics over framerate. if that is really an issue then you should just not buy their games. As long as they are making money on this direction, what reason do they have to stop?

It sucks that most of these days we talk about how much money the devs would make out of the game, instead about how much value for money we get out of it. Still yeah, the whole frame rate/resolution debate thing is kinda silly in retrospect and I'm actually kinda embarrassed that I found myself partaking in it...I had a really bad day that day lol

I'm still totally getting the game though...from the videos I've seen the game harkens back to the aesthetic of Demon's souls more than Dark Souls...

Also, I read in a previous thread that you got Folklore, its a real hiddem gem that game...pretty Much the only PS3 game that really nailed the SixAxis in my opnion, Enjoy

Folklore was amazing!!!

As for BloodBourne. It was confirmed that it's linked to Demon's Souls in some way.

And Demon's Souls was better than Dark Souls 1 and 2 could ever be

IkariX said ...As for BloodBourne. It was confirmed that it's linked to Demon's Souls in some way.

When was this? Haven't seen or read anything about this, I have tried to stay away from a lot of the news though. Would be an interesting read because the mechanics of the game has changed quite a bit so how would the Maiden in Black and the Old One come into the picture?

IkariX said ... As for BloodBourne. It was confirmed that it's linked to Demon's Souls in some way.

You Blaspheme, Dark Souls 1 was the best, although technically I agree that Demons Souls was the better game but I preferred the open world style of Dark Souls 1 compared to the closed off worlds of Demons Souls.

IkariX said ...



As for BloodBourne. It was confirmed that it's linked to Demon's Souls in some way.

I wonder is what's her face will be back so that we can "Touch the demon inside of her "

Sinncross said ...

BlazenTech*Undead* said ... It seems like almost every week I see some dev (Especially those from Ubisoft etc) coming up with some excuse why a lower framerate and resolution is better. This is next gen people, I don't want my only 60FPS experience to be Dynasty Warriors titles and some fighting games

The excuses are stupid, naturally. At least PS4 games are hitting 1080P on the resolution front, so with some engine optimisation 60fps should be happening. Besides, there is UC4 coming and I am pretty sure 60fps is what ND will go for.


That said, just because the consoles are stronger doesnt mean that automaticlaly resolutions and framerates are increased. If those devs were making the exact same games they made on the previous gen without any changes, than sure its easy. But they aren't: many are using a whole bunch of new tech in their games and trying to push not only graphics, but things like AI etc, so there is more computing taking place, and its having a negative affect on trying to reach 60fps.

Its a very simple thing devs are doing: they are optimising resolution and graphics over framerate. if that is really an issue then you should just not buy their games. As long as they are making money on this direction, what reason do they have to stop?

Emmm....yes. Telling his post is stupid makes you look like a stupid idiot.

The PS4 is significantly more powerful than the Xbox One. And more raw power doesn't mean it can run better than the other console. That is also an idiotic comment.

I have a Nvidia Titan in my PC. So you're trying to say that if someone has a Titan and someone has a Geforce 4. Does that mean my games won't look better have better framerate etc. Even though my Titan is 1,000,000,000,000,000 powerful.

Stop pushing your opinion and your "I'm always right opinion" on others.

More Power = Better Framerate = Better resolution. Start getting your facts straight. Because you only make yourself look like an idiot

DarkPrince said ...

IkariX said ...As for BloodBourne. It was confirmed that it's linked to Demon's Souls in some way.

When was this? Haven't seen or read anything about this, I have tried to stay away from a lot of the news though. Would be an interesting read because the mechanics of the game has changed quite a bit so how would the Maiden in Black and the Old One come into the picture?

IkariX said ... As for BloodBourne. It was confirmed that it's linked to Demon's Souls in some way.

You Blaspheme, Dark Souls 1 was the best, although technically I agree that Demons Souls was the better game but I preferred the open world style of Dark Souls 1 compared to the closed off worlds of Demons Souls.

For gamers who like a challenge, From Software has made a name for itself. Demon’s Souls, which released in 2009 exclusively for the PS3, was well-received by fans due to its dark fantasy setting and tough gameplay. Its 2011 spiritual successor, Dark Souls, was even more successful, and became the go-to example of a difficult game. After it received a direct sequel earlier this year, and images of a new From Software game surfaced online, many players believed a Demon’s Souls 2 was in the works. However, it was revealed at E3 2014 to be Bloodborne, a faster-paced game set in a cursed city with a Gothic setting.

Despite being a new IP, Bloodborne has drawn many comparisons to the Souls games. It may have a different gameplay style and more modern weapons, but it maintains the challenging gameplay and risk/reward mechanics that From Software is known for. Alpha testing has begun, and since there isn’t a non-disclosure agreement in place, users have uploaded videos to share Bloodborne’s gameplay with those of us not lucky enough to get a chance to try it. The alpha is currently on hold due to a glitch that needs to be fixed, but fans have still gotten to see gameplay, secrets, and… a possible link to Demon’s Souls.

Yes, although Bloodborne is not Demon’s Souls 2, there may be a deeper connection between the two after all. Fans of the PS3 exclusive should recognize the word “Umbasa,” a blessing said by an NPC in the Nexus. This word was never used in either of the Dark Souls games, but if you die to a certain boss in the Bloodborne alpha, you’ll get to hear the following line: “Sick creature… may you rest in peace… Umbasa.”

Director Hidetaka Miyazaki has stated that the overall atmosphere of the game will be similar to that of the Tower of Latria in Demon’s Souls. The Tower of Latria was filled with religious elements. Miyazaki’s statement, the “Umbasa” blessing said by a boss, and imagery seen in previous footage all suggest Bloodborne will also have strong religious themes. How it will play out is unclear, but it certainly looks as though Bloodborne could be connected to Demon’s Souls. On the other hand, Miyazaki has stated in the past that making it Demon’s Souls 2 was never even under consideration.

Read more: http://www.jbgnews.com/2014/10/bloodborne-might-be-linked-to-demons-souls/505506.html#ixzz3HcoLeDMa

Ah ok so it's not confirmation just speculation, same thing that people did in Dark Souls saying if you look up from Ash Lake you will see the Nexus they grasping at straws I say.

Little touches are cool though, as long as I can praise the sun I'll be happy especially after a successful invasion.

Guys - please play nice or you will be nuked along with the thread.

DarkPrince said ...

Ah ok so it's not confirmation just speculation, same thing that people did in Dark Souls saying if you look up from Ash Lake you will see the Nexus they grasping at straws I say.

Little touches are cool though, as long as I can praise the sun I'll be happy especially after a successful invasion.

You probably going to invade my ass in BloodBourne !bm

IkariX said ...

You probably going to invade my ass in BloodBourne !bm

Nah we can do some co-op but if I do manage to invade your world expect no mercy, I will make you kill your blacksmith lol

DarkPrince said ...

IkariX said ...

You probably going to invade my ass in BloodBourne !bm

Nah we can do some co-op but if I do manage to invade your world expect no mercy, I will make you kill your blacksmith lol

!bm Some co-op will be awesome. In Demon's Souls I did kill the one blacksmith. Had to start over because well I was basically screwed

Yeah I think everyone that doesn't sit with an FAQ next to them while playing the guide has made that mistake before. I still kill merchants depending on what items they drop but tend to leave blacksmiths alone