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DarkPrince DarkPrince SITE MODERATOR

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March 28 2015, 10:39am
Sinncross said ...

I have a question, how does co-op actually work?




First you need to get the 3 bell items, Beckoning Bell, Small Resonant Bell, Sinister Resonant Bell.

When you have at least 1 insight warp back to the dream world and the messengers on the floor will give you this bell.

In order to get the Small Resonant Bell and Sinister Resonant Bell you must have 10 insight in order to merchant to appear just outside the house window/door, after that you can purchase the bells for 1 insight each. The merchant will disappear if you go below 10 insight.

I order to use the Beckoning bell you need to be in an area where the boss has not been defeated, ring the bell and it will open you up for others to enter. The player that wants to join you must then ring the Small Resonant Bell, this can usually take between 10 seconds to a few minutes. To make this easier to connect select options and go to network, in network set your region to worldwide, for some reason this never worked when set to local, and set a unique password and give this to the person that wants to co-op with you. Also note that your levels must not be more than 10, so a level 31 player cannot join a level 2o player, but 21 and 31 will be fine.

After successfully creating the co-op session you will also get a notification that a sinister bell is ringing, the Bell Maiden has entered your world and opened you up for invasion, you need to seek this bell Maiden and kill her in order to prevent invasions, if you do not you may get invaded continuously.

Also take note that any player being summoned into another players world for co-op will have 30-40% reduced health and only receives half the amount of blood echoes as the person who summoned them.

The same applies for the Sinister bell, you can ring it at any stage and you will be summoned into a co-op world to defeat the targets. If your summons dies you will still be invaded until you kill the Bell Maiden so keep that in mind, 1 on 1 invasions can still occur.

After you defeat the boss your co-op session will end.

There is a 4th bell that you get later in the game called the Choir bell, it takes 10 bullets to use but will heal everyone in your co-op party. You can have up to 2 players join your world and then another invader.

On top of all of this you can also co-op Chalice dungeons but it works slightly differently, the person that wants to coop needs to create the Chalice Dungeon and then set it to public, there will also be a key on the bottom right side looks something like eeg768fw gives this you your co-op partner. The co-op partner now goes to the Chalice Tombstones and says search for public game, enter this code and it will enter you into the dungeon. When the main user has entered the dungeon ring the beckoning bell and the partner rings the resonant bell, you will no be warped into their dungeon. Completing each layer will disconnect the co-op session and you will have to either reverse the summoning, so summoner becomes the summoned or the other player can run through the layer by themselves and then ring the bells at the next layer to continue the session.



On a side note it seems the Nightmare Frontier area will be the main PVP area, as no matter your co-op status there is always a bell Maiden there so you can be invaded in this area 1 on 1 unless you kill the Maiden.
 
DarkPrince DarkPrince SITE MODERATOR

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March 28 2015, 1:32pm
Look at this insane damage on a boss enemy, +6 Ludwig's holy sword 1289 damage.

 
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March 28 2015, 2:19pm
some warning about Forbidden Woods and the Lunarium Key glitch.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-03-27-how-to-avoid-bloodbornes-game-breaking-glitch

Will be patched next week ...
 
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March 28 2015, 8:06pm
...I suck at this game.
 
Funnynel42 Funnynel42

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March 28 2015, 10:25pm
After struggling a few hours, I finally got to the first boss and after winning, I could at long last upgrade my skills. Now everything is a walk in the park. It's awesome to help other players suffer easier.
 
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March 28 2015, 11:03pm
I hate it when I roll into a corner and unable to dodge attacks
 
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March 29 2015, 7:09am
Funnynel42 said ...

After struggling a few hours, I finally got to the first boss and after winning, I could at long last upgrade my skills. Now everything is a walk in the park. It's awesome to help other players suffer easier.


I upgraded before I killed him...

 
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March 29 2015, 9:35am
Siosal said ...

Funnynel42 said ...

After struggling a few hours, I finally got to the first boss and after winning, I could at long last upgrade my skills. Now everything is a walk in the park. It's awesome to help other players suffer easier.


I upgraded before I killed him...



howd u manage to upgrade before killing the boss?

btw I destroyed my character build... kept upping my strength so I could try out the kirkhammer. Sigh what have I done
 
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March 29 2015, 10:44am
Boss Fight

 
IkariX IkariX

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March 29 2015, 11:27am
I'm using my pimp cane for everything. Very powerful if used correctly
 
DarkPrince DarkPrince SITE MODERATOR

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March 29 2015, 1:54pm
Got the Katana, woohoo



Then made a new character to do some local Co-Op

Blood-starved Beast Co-Op

 
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March 29 2015, 2:32pm
Milkyway said ...

Siosal said ...

Funnynel42 said ...

After struggling a few hours, I finally got to the first boss and after winning, I could at long last upgrade my skills. Now everything is a walk in the park. It's awesome to help other players suffer easier.


I upgraded before I killed him...



howd u manage to upgrade before killing the boss?

btw I destroyed my character build... kept upping my strength so I could try out the kirkhammer. Sigh what have I done


I think I died once with the cleric boss and the doll woke up. What are you supposed to upgrade?

 
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March 29 2015, 3:05pm
DarkPrince said ...

Got the Katana, woohoo



Then made a new character to do some local Co-Op

Blood-starved Beast Co-Op



how's the katana I know in previous games the katana was a beast of a weapon.
 
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March 29 2015, 9:28pm
CRAVINHO said ...=

how's the katana I know in previous games the katana was a beast of a weapon.


Katana's have never been good, they are just a fan favorite type of weapon but they are never the best, I'd say average at best and it's the same in this game, 2 handed gives a boost in damage but drains your health. Getting a bit tired of them doing all these gimicky stuff on Katana's but I'm running with my Evelyn so I'll never 2 hand the thing anyway.

That Evelyn damage



My character at the moment, this will be my PVP build, Chikage with Evelyn.





Don't think I'll ever use the 2 handed version but it looks so cool coated in blood, takes forever to switch to 2 handed mode though.

 
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March 30 2015, 8:11am
So I spent some decent hours yesterday with this game:

The graphics is just beautiful, game play smooth and fast paced, enemy design is fantastic and the setting is just awesome! Although one can feel and see the Souls games in this game, it still breaks away nicely from the Souls experience.

It plays a lot quicker than the Souls games, from always having to hold your shield up and circle your enemies to catch an opening and defeat the enemy in the Souls games, it now feels a bit more varied and it leaves you with more options with the dodge system FROMSOFTWARE went with, and it works well!

The Lanterns (aka Bonfires) are also cleverly placed. Instead of having 10 Lanterns in an area, they are now strategically placed in an area where all roads lead to (if that makes sense), so pretty much everywhere you go, you'll always get back to the same lantern, creating shortcuts to your new destinations. I'm not sure if the later stages are the same, but thus far from Central Yarnham to Old Yarnham it's been the same thing.

Thus far the bosses have been pretty easy, I beat the Cleric Beast and the 1st Boss both on my 1st try and I'm currently in Old Yarnham. I defeated the Machine gun dude and got to the Blood Starved Beast. I only tried the Boss once as I was too tired to carry on playing, but it's not that hard of a boss battle, after my 1st try I got him to one fifth of his health before I died as I ran out of Antidotes. I'm sure the bosses get much, much harder and to beat them on your ace will probably not be possible But until my internet is sorted, I have no choice but to brave this game on my own

All and all, this game is everything I hoped it to be
 
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March 30 2015, 9:31am
Milkyway said ...
btw I destroyed my character build... kept upping my strength so I could try out the kirkhammer. Sigh what have I done


The Kirkhammer is a good weapon in two handed mode. Even the singlehand mode has a powerful thrust attack. Just roll behind the big brick/axe brutes and annihilate them with the charge attack.

I came to a point where I can either fight the boss in the Cathedral or go to my death y some invisible thing to the right of the place where the two hunters were...

I've waited over 30 minutes last night for someone to help me by ringing the beckoning bell, and yet I got no help. I even set my network to worldwide. I'll try again tonight.
 
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March 30 2015, 12:17pm
You can't really mess up your stats so early in the game, plus it's much harder to mess up stats in this game. There aren't many upgrade paths.

Your level is also dependent on if you will get help or not. If you grinded through the areas to over level your character you probably won't find anyone to play with, I'd say level 25-28 is a good place to be for the Cathedral boss fight.
 
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March 30 2015, 12:21pm
DarkPrince said ...

I'd say level 25-28 is a good place to be for the Cathedral boss fight.


Damn...I haven't even come near the Cathedral Boss and I'm lvl 33 already. But I guess this is mostly due to me having to play on my own I might restart once I have internet
 
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March 30 2015, 12:29pm
Most people play on their own the first time around, you don't even understand how incredible easy and boring this game is playing with someone, it's completely brain-dead.

I mean look at this, I created a new character to do some co-op, I played co-op here with Mantis, the boss killed him so we did a summon, this was my 2nd time fighting this boss outside of the first time I played, we where both level 21.



Compared to my first encounter with the same boss at I think level 25 or something.



The difference is night and day, totally brain dead and just takes away any challenge for the game. Being offline isn't a bad thing Plus you won't get PSN messages at 3am in the morning from people asking for help with a boss, 3 [censored] AM people wtf!!
 
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March 30 2015, 12:34pm
That's the Boss that killed me last night before I decided to go to bed. I got him down to 1 fifth of his health on my 1st try, then I died as I ran out of Antidotes, I never knew this boss poisons you, else I would've had more than 4 Antidotes equipped. Had I done so the 1st time, I would've downed him!

Another thing...even the Souls games were piss easy when you co-op'ed. How many bosses would you rate can one down by yourself till it gets really hard? I just wanna know for the sake of me having to (unwillingly) play on my own.

I've only come up against 3 bosses thus far and all of them were pretty easy. The Cleric Beast was just a joke though, got him 1st time, still a beautifully designed Boss, then the 1st Boss at the Tomb who was also easy, got him 1st time to, then the Blood Starved Beast who killed me. All and all, the most difficult of them all was the Machine Gun dude (who's not even a boss ) lol! I had more trouble with him than all the bosses hahah!
 
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