DarkPrince said ...

You cannot say a game has meter management when the only damn thing you can use your meter on is a super. That's not meter management that's common sense.

Oh really? Well let us see how much wrong info you decided to grace us with:

DarkPrince said ...


No Raiden player is going to actively try and get to level 2 or level 3 because neither of them are as good as his level 3. His level 1 super will get you 3 kills instantly if you position your opponents correctly. Again this isn't meter management this is common sense on how to play a character. Why get a level 2 and hopefully get 1 kill when you can get 3 from a level 1?

This first... as a Raiden player myself I know you are talking trash here. To even think his level 1 is significantly better than his level 2 or 3 is just plain absurd.
His level 1 will get you 3 kills if you position yourself right.. and if you do not get hit while performing this. Raiden`s level 1 is not that hard to cancel from another player.
On the other hand, his level 2 and 3 can net up to 4 kills far more consistently than his level 1 can even do 2 players.

So your claim that you will 'hopefully' get 1 kill off a level 2 super is ludicrous... considering it stuns every single player right next to Raiden making the first 3 kills easy to get before anyone recovers. You still have time after that to net more kills as the players respawn. (same goes for his level 3)

DarkPrince said ...


Some characters have an instant 3 kills for a level 3, so people will try get 3 bars. This isn't meter management this is just how you use the character.

Except that you are wrong again. The supers that grant you 3 instant kills are among the worst level 3's in teh game. All they do is grant you 3 instant kills whereas every other player can easily get 4 minimum with level 3's. If anything, it is actually far more viable for these characters with instant kill lvl 3's to not get to lvl 3 at all and instead kill with their lvl 1 and 2. PaRappa is a prime example... his level 2 can be very devastating and can get 4 potential kills before it is up.

DarkPrince said ...


Again even with Dante most players will try get his level 2, that's not meter management it's playing the character properly.

Again no... his level 2 is not even that difficult to evade unless you have yourself in a really poor position (good timing on teh Dante player)

DarkPrince said ...


Imagine how deadly a Raiden player would be with 3 bars but he can actually use 3 level 1's instead of only being able to use a level 3? That would add meter management and depth to the game. All there is now is getting to level 1 and trying to use it before you get to level 2. what management is there in that?

If I have no already proven how poor your understanding of the game is allow me to do so now.
The amount the AP to get to level 1 is far less than getting to level 2. Understanding management is key here... if you can let off your level 1 just before you get to level 2 you can easily get 2 level 1's off (even 3 for some characters) before you have no AP meter left. Let me reiterate this: performing a level 1 does not just cancel out all of your AP meter. It only cancels out how much AP it took to get that super. The same for level 2. many players may decide not to go for the level 3 super and cut it off early because they will be able to get a level 2 and level 1 super performed in succession without the need to gain more AP between both.

AP management comes in the form of understanding what needs to be done at any given time.. if you dont want the level 2 and accidently get it, then you can try your luck at getting hit by the environment or an item, or baiting a throw off another player to get you back to your desired AP level.

DarkPrince said ...


If I could kill you just by hitting you in a good long and damaging combo it would add tons more to the game. If you could actually die due to environmental hazards which had implications on other players it would also help.

This is all variations of AP management,, getting AP quickly and effectively, ensuring you dont get hit by the environment to lose AP.

DarkPrince said ...


As of right now all this game is, is a round starting and people just hitting buttons because there is no negative effect,

Nope not true. You really have no idea how this game works if you think it is all offensive. The defensive game is perhaps as, if not more, important since preventing other players from being able to hit you, and therefore get AP, means they cant perform supers.

Seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about, and all this info I provided you could have got if you just gave the beta a few more hours of your time.

The entire FGC has agreed Raiden's level 1 is his bast super in the game, even Clockword who is a Raiden player has said his Level 1 is the better out of the 3, especially in 1 on 1 matches. I understand you love the game and try and defend it as much as you can but but you honestly need some proper FG experience. You are the perfect example of why people laugh when Brawl is mentioned in FG debates.

Every time I see a Raiden vid on SRK people are landing 3 kills easy, sure you can hit people out of it but 90% of the time your going to get 3 kills with it. Or at least any good Raiden player will. You said it yourself it's significantly harder to build meter after level 1 so why bother trying to get 4 kills with a level 2 or 3 when you could get 6-9 in a shorter period of time?

You trying to explain the supers and AP show just how broken and bland some characters are, how hard can it be too balance a game like this?

I honestly don't feel like blabbering to you anymore, you have no idea what a fighting game actually is. I've watched and discussed enough about this game on SRK with people who actually have background knowledge in the genre. With the amount of content I've posted for this game you honestly think I didn't read/watch any of it? We must be getting games mixed up. So enjoy playing your game my only regret is I won't be online to show you just how easy this game is to pick up and play. For a FG player the game has no redeeming factors and nothing to work towards

Morschee feel free to buy the game apparently I don't know what 'm talking about so my opinion is invalid

I have played enough fighting games to know this is a lot of fun.

You should really check the game out Morschee. It is incredibly addictive.

Sinncross said ...

this is a lot of fun.

^^This...it really does look like it could be!

but I also believe the below to be a great possibility!

DarkPrince said ...

it will probably entertain you for an hour or so and past that you'll probably stop playing.

^^And it's not becuase it's "PS All Stars Battle Royale", these days I can't play racing nor fighting games (Actually, most games these days), they just fail to entertain me for long. When TTT2 came out and i started playing it, I was like "OMFG!!! This is the best fighter EVER!!!!" 2 weeks later and I traded it I picked up SF again and for the 1st 3hrs I asked myself why I ever stopped playing it...30 minutes later I was like "Ah...that's why". So as entertaining as this looks and probably is, I'll probably trade it in a week, so maybe I'll wait for a price drop rather.

hmmm if that is the case with fighting games lately, then maybe wait... it is different from T and SF so you may find something here that hooks you (considering it uses a different winning mechanic etc).

According to Colin Moraity of PS3 IGN:
https://twitter.com/notaxation/status/275778260967759872

The new DLC stage for the game is Heavenly Sword mixed with Wipeout.

First images of DLC are in
KAT






EMMETT





HEAVENLY SWORD (w/WIPEOUT)

Nariko and a Heavenly Sword stage? damn this game.

Integration with Wipeout looks good.

I'm curious to see how the Wipeout track is gonna invade the Heavenly Sword stage.
KAT!
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Charmi said ...

I'm curious to see how the Wipeout track is gonna invade the Heavenly Sword stage.
KAT!
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im pretty sure you start off in the area with the HS enemies and something causes you to go to the other area and the wipeout stage is just there. i dont think it invades the area at all. Though I could be wrong.

Cant wait, teh level looks great so do kat and emmett

Here's an article discussing their play styles and moves. http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/4/3725568/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-starhawk-gravity-rush-dlc-preview

^Stopped reading as soon as I saw the word "Supers". I want to be surprised
The lack of Dusty in these images is a bit worrying. They better not leave him out.

I think the official PS blog posting gives better details
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2012/12/04/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-hands-on-with-kat-and-emmett/

Summary:

Kat has no double jump - instead she uses an 8 direction movement technique when in the air. Her moves allow her to close in on opponents quickly. She has the ability to use gravity to draw characters towards her. All-in-all, she is a get up and close fighter. Emmett on the other hand is more long range, but not entirely. Like in Starhawk he can call down pods from the sky into battle. The first kind he can summon bring about different weapons - going to the pod changes his weapon load out, including an RPG, shotgun and mines. -Included in the Charmi post is that these pods can land and damage an opponent (losing AP I assume)

Fair enough on the supers part Charmi. But you are going to see them in the reveal trailer for Kat... I odnt think its an issue but they are spot on Supers I say.
As for Dusty... remember, the footage journalists are playing is still alpha... there is no balancing, Emmett does not even have an active level 3 outside of what it will do and look like. Still a lot of work to do, but Dusty will definitely be there. Considering the detail they have given other characters, they wont screw that up


ON a side note: only kat and emmett are confirmed to be free for 2 weeks. the Fearless stage is still undecided at this point.

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale patch 1.02 now live

• A new item, Medusa’s Gaze, has been added to the game
• View Invites has been added to the Party Bar Menu
• Voice chat icon added to loading screens
• AI logic enhancements

Network performance improvements
• Issue where players were stuck with a different character than the one picked has been addressed
• Issue with matchmaking in regards to player skill has been addressed
• Overall improvements to network connectivity

Sackboy changes

• Level 1 Super - Increase cost from 100 to 150 AP
• Level 2 Super - Increase cost from 325 to 400 AP
• Level 3 Super - Increase cost from 600 to 750 AP
• Jam Session (Neutral Triangle) - Reduced AP generation from 25 down to 10 AP
• Cakeinator (Neutral Circle) - Reduced AP generation from 25 down to 20 AP

Gameplay footage of Kat and Emmett, also if you watch this video at 1:04 into the video you can clearly see both Crash and Spyro as well as Dart, Lighting and a few others with all the other characters. So either they be trolling or Superbot just allowed them to leak something.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/dec/08/gameplay-footage-kat-and-emmett-playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-seth-killian-discusses-how-each-character-plays/

DarkPrince said ...
Gameplay footage of Kat and Emmett, also if you watch this video at 1:04 into the video you can clearly see both Crash and Spyro as well as Dart, Lighting and a few others with all the other characters. So either they be trolling or Superbot just allowed them to leak something.

Its obviously an error on the editing departments side. Its a fan made image that existed before the game even released.

Played PS all-stars at a friend and I didn't enjoy it that much

Cravinho said ...

Played PS all-stars at a friend and I didn't enjoy it that much

any particular reasons why?

On a side note, teh footage that DP posted.

Kat looks pretty good. I am not a fan of her lvl 3 though - was expecting something more gravity based.
Emmett looks more traditional (in terms of PSBR) but could have a lot of potential for Radec fans. The calling down of buildings/ pods looks straight out of Starhawk which is great.

Also the Heavenly Sword/ Wipeout stage looks fun. The falling to a bottom part of the level is a nice touch, similar to Invasion (Killzone/ Ape Escape)

Can’t get online since patch 1.02 Anyone else having issues?

Charmi said ...

Can’t get online since patch 1.02 Anyone else having issues?

When they released the patch they were updating servers.

Lass night I was getting into ranked matches easier/ quicker than I had been since launch.

Is the game fun? Yes. Can it be cheap? Yes to that too. But the good outweighs the bad. Sure its not a serious fighter like UMVC3 and the rest, buts its more of a party game. Plus the Hades level was awesome. Patapon army taking down Hades made my day