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06 November at 23:37
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06 November at 13:17
MrOde very good point! I'd pay extra for express overnight shipping.
HaseoVII SAME regarding FF7Rebirth (best believe I preordered Revelation though
)
I am such a huge fan of Nexus Hub - no one else in SA imports the niche titles - I used to need to get my stuff from Amazon Japan/US
HaseoVII SAME regarding FF7Rebirth (best believe I preordered Revelation though
)I am such a huge fan of Nexus Hub - no one else in SA imports the niche titles - I used to need to get my stuff from Amazon Japan/US
06 November at 13:07
06 November at 12:56
06 November at 12:02
I'm not looking to start a bad thread about this, I was really just curious because I misclicked the tab on the left and stumbled upon the poll (I'd never clicked it before).
I am fiercely brand loyal to Nexus Hub and I don't care too much about not getting a game day-1. I know other names like BT and Koodoo ship earlier so you get it on release, but I'd never be "that" excited that I must play day-1, life happens
On the other hand, paying an extra R150 every time you order a commercially available title does add up, and I would not blame the average consumer for trying to save some money.
I know I'd feel less off about it if there was a price match, and free delivery at a certain threshold.
I am fiercely brand loyal to Nexus Hub and I don't care too much about not getting a game day-1. I know other names like BT and Koodoo ship earlier so you get it on release, but I'd never be "that" excited that I must play day-1, life happens
On the other hand, paying an extra R150 every time you order a commercially available title does add up, and I would not blame the average consumer for trying to save some money.
I know I'd feel less off about it if there was a price match, and free delivery at a certain threshold.
06 November at 12:01
06 November at 11:44
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Posty 
06 March 2007
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06 March 2007
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Game guides, useful or purely a collector’s item.
The debate isn’t as clear cut as a simple yes/no answer.
The relevance of the information is quite important as it’s been highlighted.
If I think, off the top of my head, the guides I own that have retained in their entirety the games mechanics, item/weapon use, plot (which.. shouldn’t have changed) and overall layout of the game would be:
Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12 (I own 13’s guide but sold that rubbish game
)
Resident Evil 4 and Code Veronica
Killzone 2
Dragon Quest 8,
Jak and Daxter 1, 2 and 3
GTA San Andreas, 4 and 5
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 (This is debatable as the guide’s I have are for the original release so all the changes in the remix additions are not available BUT then again the guide was made for KH1 & 2 not Kingdom Hearts Remix)
Metroid Trilogy
Valkyria Chronicles
God of War 1 and 2
Silent Hill 2
I have the GOTY edition guide for Fallout 3 which covers all platforms and all DLC..
You could have played Falllout 3 and then lost all interest in the game and not care about the guide but the relevance of the guide still stands regardless.
Personally, I love guides but for a form of reference in future play through.
I played RE4 on the GC, loved the game and it’s still in my top 5 games of all time.
When I got the PS2 version, FuturePress released their guide and it was a must buy for me.. surprisingly I discovered things in the guide that I had never known before which were in the original release as well.
I have been fooled though as I bought the Dark Chronicle guide and to my dismay the guide was lacking any real structure and wasn’t helpful in certain ways.
For example the game has positive and negative effects you can apply to your weapon’s. Adding certain positive effects will automatically add a negative effect as well and the guide never mentioned that nor did it explain how to remove effects either which is entirely possible but working through a 100hr game to discover it yourself is very tiring.
Ultimately, what are your thoughts?
The debate isn’t as clear cut as a simple yes/no answer.
The relevance of the information is quite important as it’s been highlighted.
If I think, off the top of my head, the guides I own that have retained in their entirety the games mechanics, item/weapon use, plot (which.. shouldn’t have changed) and overall layout of the game would be:
Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12 (I own 13’s guide but sold that rubbish game
)Resident Evil 4 and Code Veronica
Killzone 2
Dragon Quest 8,
Jak and Daxter 1, 2 and 3
GTA San Andreas, 4 and 5
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 (This is debatable as the guide’s I have are for the original release so all the changes in the remix additions are not available BUT then again the guide was made for KH1 & 2 not Kingdom Hearts Remix)
Metroid Trilogy
Valkyria Chronicles
God of War 1 and 2
Silent Hill 2
I have the GOTY edition guide for Fallout 3 which covers all platforms and all DLC..
You could have played Falllout 3 and then lost all interest in the game and not care about the guide but the relevance of the guide still stands regardless.
Personally, I love guides but for a form of reference in future play through.
I played RE4 on the GC, loved the game and it’s still in my top 5 games of all time.
When I got the PS2 version, FuturePress released their guide and it was a must buy for me.. surprisingly I discovered things in the guide that I had never known before which were in the original release as well.
I have been fooled though as I bought the Dark Chronicle guide and to my dismay the guide was lacking any real structure and wasn’t helpful in certain ways.
For example the game has positive and negative effects you can apply to your weapon’s. Adding certain positive effects will automatically add a negative effect as well and the guide never mentioned that nor did it explain how to remove effects either which is entirely possible but working through a 100hr game to discover it yourself is very tiring.
Ultimately, what are your thoughts?
I think the original point that started the debate went over a bit too high.
For one you cannot compare a guide released for a product that didn't or couldn't change.
Final Fantasy 7 is Final Fantasy 7 the game never changed, so the guide will always be relevant. You cannot compare guides of games when games where unable to be altered to guides released today where games are continually altered with updates.
A Zelda guide 10 years ago will be relevant today as the game never changed, the only thing you can argue is whether it is needed as the information in the guide is readily available on the internet. So buying an old guide today would be really just a collection thing as opposed to buying it 10 years back when the internet wasn't readily available and it could actually add to your experience.
These days they are completely useless and not needed, collection purposes only as anyone wanting to know something can have it in a minute thanks to the internet. Guides don't get updated where as the games they are based on are constantly updated. Probably why they have to add so much extra content to guides these days such as hard cover releases, additional artwork, soundtracks etc.
For one you cannot compare a guide released for a product that didn't or couldn't change.
Final Fantasy 7 is Final Fantasy 7 the game never changed, so the guide will always be relevant. You cannot compare guides of games when games where unable to be altered to guides released today where games are continually altered with updates.
A Zelda guide 10 years ago will be relevant today as the game never changed, the only thing you can argue is whether it is needed as the information in the guide is readily available on the internet. So buying an old guide today would be really just a collection thing as opposed to buying it 10 years back when the internet wasn't readily available and it could actually add to your experience.
These days they are completely useless and not needed, collection purposes only as anyone wanting to know something can have it in a minute thanks to the internet. Guides don't get updated where as the games they are based on are constantly updated. Probably why they have to add so much extra content to guides these days such as hard cover releases, additional artwork, soundtracks etc.
Posty 06 March 2007
1687
06 March 2007
1687
Magius said ...
So I buy the CE ones as they look better and add in a heckuva lot of supplementary info. I like it for the added bits, the info can be useful at times to get the collectibles, but for me it is great for the extra info. I also only get them for RPGs and openworld games.
Absolutely, open world and RPG's are just too big for the common man who has a couple hours a day to play balancing family, friends, work and drinking
DarkPrince said ...
I think the original point that started the debate went over a bit too high.
For one you cannot compare a guide released for a product that didn't or couldn't change.
Final Fantasy 7 is Final Fantasy 7 the game never changed, so the guide will always be relevant. You cannot compare guides of games when games where unable to be altered to guides released today where games are continually altered with updates.
A Zelda guide 10 years ago will be relevant today as the game never changed, the only thing you can argue is whether it is needed as the information in the guide is readily available on the internet. So buying an old guide today would be really just a collection thing as opposed to buying it 10 years back when the internet wasn't readily available and it could actually add to your experience.
These days they are completely useless and not needed, collection purposes only as anyone wanting to know something can have it in a minute thanks to the internet. Guides don't get updated where as the games they are based on are constantly updated. Probably why they have to add so much extra content to guides these days such as hard cover releases, additional artwork, soundtracks etc.
It's fair to point out that the internet is by far a much easier, simply and direct way of getting information for games in general and there isn't a debate about that hence why actual magazines are dying quickly.
With thousands if not millions of people playing the game and discovering something someone else hasn't and posting it online is more up to date than an aged guide.
In those terms you are correct but sitting on my couch and as you mentioned, games like final fantasy 7's guide has all the information you would find online so both are equally beneficial and therefore both are on equal footing.
So all I’m saying is objectively guides are dependent on a few aspects and therefore are all different and are appealing in different ways.
KnightFall500 
03 July 2009
14597
03 July 2009
14597
For some games guides are a must!
I buy guides for GTA games.
For example the GTAV guide! I don’t use it for the story missions, just all the collectibles & random events. Without a guide, you will never find all of them.
Yes you can check on the net, & print out everything you need. Which I have done before, for the odd thing I needed to do or find. But sometimes its just too much, & a guide makes it easier.
When new dlc comes out, everything that came before the guide is still relevant. Its only the new content that will be missing.
I have the for…
GTA VC
GTAIV
GTAV
& The Warriors PS2 guide. More for keeps sake, as I had already finished the game when I got it.
I buy guides for GTA games.
For example the GTAV guide! I don’t use it for the story missions, just all the collectibles & random events. Without a guide, you will never find all of them.
Yes you can check on the net, & print out everything you need. Which I have done before, for the odd thing I needed to do or find. But sometimes its just too much, & a guide makes it easier.
When new dlc comes out, everything that came before the guide is still relevant. Its only the new content that will be missing.
I have the for…
GTA VC
GTAIV
GTAV
& The Warriors PS2 guide. More for keeps sake, as I had already finished the game when I got it.
